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posted October 11, 2006 06:40 PM
Bently..I don't know a whole lot about the nitty gritty of drag racing except what I read about it from you and the other seasoned drag racers here but, this guy has a habit of talking shit about things he obviously knows nothing about...I'm in it with him on another thread over HID's and he just won't give it up, even though he is sadly mistaken and 100% wrong.
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posted October 11, 2006 06:58 PM
FBA i normally don't let shit bother me , but I know dragracing inside and out. And I still stand behind my results from the two pipes. and I'm sure smoking will as well. as he will go faster yet. And the track is the best dyno hands down if you have weather stations and so on. Everyone one this board know's i never got on here and braged about my dragracing. But I would hate to know how many 1000's of passes I have made. As far as the HIDS go mine worked great on the Busa but can't speak for the 14.
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posted October 11, 2006 07:37 PM
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[quote Re read my post ...I said (That's more LIKE a 7 to 9 hp gain ) and i still have my flys in place...... My test was Muzzy pipe that run 9.44@147 to the Brocks pipe that ran 9.32 @150.60 .. You do the math, how much HP is needed to pick up 3 + Mph in the 1/4 mile?
Pipes don't make runs dude..the rider does.
You can't compare which pipe makes more horsepower by your 1/4 runs, unless you mirror every aspect of the run ie; reaction time, 60 ft time etc.
Get a clue.
Well i can see you know nothing about drag racing ....reaction time has nothing to do with you ET or MPH .The light can turn green as as long as you don't trip the beam you time will never start ... Look Buddy i have been testing and tuning for 33 years and for the last 32 yeas have been building race engines ... So sparky don't tell me come in here telling me to get a clue ... You get Get a Fucking Clue ....And just for your info the test runs where done at the same track , same temp and same Humidity % .. I had 100 passes on the Muzzy pipe and my first pass off the trailer the Brocks pipe when 9.37@150.40 With a crappy 60 foot time ...The Muzzy was tapped out with 100 runs and the best it ever made was 9.44 @147..
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posted October 11, 2006 07:43 PM
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FBA i normally don't let shit bother me , but I know dragracing inside and out. And I still stand behind my results from the two pipes. and I'm sure smoking will as well. as he will go faster yet. And the track is the best dyno hands down if you have weather stations and so on. Everyone one this board know's i never got on here and braged about my dragracing. But I would hate to know how many 1000's of passes I have made. As far as the HIDS go mine worked great on the Busa but can't speak for the 14.
Thanks Bently and FBA ...This clown has no clue about drag racing and never will either...
You guys know i keep a cool head on this website but this clown has me pissed ...Sorry for the rant .... Smokin....
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zx14_1965
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posted October 11, 2006 10:08 PM
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That's what I thought your the one with No Clue reatction time has Nothing to do with your time what so ever. you can sit at the line for 2 seconds and still run a 9.50, have you ever been to a track. and by the why this is coming from someone that in 582 post have never called out anyone. But had to this time. 60 ft times do matter. Oh ya and what's your dragracing experience. I'm sure other dragracers like smoking and flatoutbu will also tell you the same thing. Oh ya and I never lost any weight when I went from my muzzy's pipe to my brock. always 216 in shorts.
uh...okay 
sit on the line for 2 seconds and run a 9.5...uh huh...okay
Brocks pipes are the best....uh huh...okay. Not to say it doesn't put out good hp, but the rider does matter on the 1/4.
Jeez 216?....are you height proportionate? Since you bring up weight....a rider weighing 60lbs lighter than you running stock pipes would run pretty close to your times, of course riding ability being equal of course. Still don't get it?
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posted October 11, 2006 10:18 PM
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1965 can't help it guys, he'll never admit he doesn't know it ALL. After they bounced him out of the military for raping Japanese goats while on duty, he bought a Jap bride off some poor one legged farmer. With pending charges of bestiality, he was forced to move back to the US or face prosecution. Once here, he set up an multibillion dollar import-export company and simultaneously got his Ph.D. in 13 separate engineering fields . . . still a goat reaming  .
You slam my Japanese wife...totally uncalled for. You can slam me in any other fashion but bringing my wife into this will put you against odds with me. I'll give you an opportunity to apologize like a man or you and will meet and that's no bullshit buddy.
Multi-billion $ import..no far from it but very lucrative in the 3 years I did it until some fucks wanted to run with the goods. Correction: I didn't build it here in the US, it was all done from Japan.
PhD in 13 separate engineering fields...no...just two bachelor degrees 1)Business management and 2)Political Science
Goats?...you seem to know quite a bit about 'em...you must be talking from experience.
"Bestiality"?....I'll look that one up.
I'm totally serious about your low jabs about my wife.
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posted October 11, 2006 10:21 PM
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1965 can't help it guys, he'll never admit he doesn't know it ALL. After they bounced him out of the military for raping Japanese goats while on duty, he bought a Jap bride off some poor one legged farmer. With pending charges of bestiality, he was forced to move back to the US or face prosecution. Once here, he set up an multibillion dollar import-export company and simultaneously got his Ph.D. in 13 separate engineering fields . . . still a goat reaming .
You slam my Japanese wife...totally uncalled for. You can slam me in any other fashion but bringing my wife into this will put you against odds with me. I'll give you an opportunity to apologize like a man or you and will meet and that's no bullshit buddy. Redmond, Washington is beautiful country....I love visiting small towns. Microsoft is one of the many companies I consult for. I love cycling there too. I have a feeling you drive a Hummer?
Multi-billion $ import..no far from it but very lucrative in the 3 years I did it until some fucks wanted to run with the goods. Correction: I didn't build it here in the US, it was all done from Japan.
PhD in 13 separate engineering fields...no...just 3 bachelor degrees 1)Business management and 2)Political Science 3) and one of my favorites -- Computer Science - specializing in forensic computer stuff...and I must mention I'm a collector of old military shit too....you should see my collection. I'd like to add a M1A to my inventory. Finding you shouldn't be too hard...maybe you can show me your milspec collection.
Goats?...you seem to know quite a bit about 'em...you must be talking from experience.
"Bestiality"?....I'll look that one up.
I'm totally serious about your low jabs about my wife.
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posted October 11, 2006 10:30 PM
Edited By: zx14_1965 on 11 Oct 2006 23:31
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ROFFL... 
Tell me...do you just make it up as you type? I'm cryin' so hard readin that post....I can't keep a straight face
You think the fucker who slams my wife in that post is funny.
Your response should be pretty interesting as it will tell much about who you are.
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posted October 11, 2006 10:33 PM
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Tell me...do you just make it up as you type?
I'm afraid so, it just comes to me when I get annoyed with someone. I'm an ASSHOLE and I know it
You don't know the meaning of "Asshole".....slam my wife...and I am a total mean fuckin' asshole. Appears the topic has taken a turn, hopefully you'll come to your senses and apologize...I ain't letting this one go.
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posted October 11, 2006 10:35 PM
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Well he does no something he called me an avid dragracer, he must know I have held 5 nhra licenses. Super gas, super comp, advanced et, et motorcycle, and my one I'm the proudest of, my top alcohol funny car license. won numourous bracket races, super comp race, quick 16 races, runner up in points in super pro twice, motorcycle track champion the first year I competed on a bike, second place on my bike second year I competed and I only raced half of the races. Just can't believe I never new how fast I could have been if my reaction time was better. LOL
Wow....I'm impressed. Looks like the 14 is the appropriate bike for you to own.
Haven't you heard....reaction time don't mean squat.
You must be rich with all those credentials and wins.
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posted October 11, 2006 10:39 PM
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I'm in it with him on another thread over HID's and he just won't give it up, even though he is sadly mistaken and 100% wrong.
Uh...ok...weren't you suppose to go and  yourself until March?
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posted October 11, 2006 10:41 PM
Uh/Oh looks like it's off to the smack house with the next reply 
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posted October 11, 2006 10:46 PM
Well i can see you know nothing about drag racing ....reaction time has nothing to do with you ET or MPH .The light can turn green as as long as you don't trip the beam you time will never start ... Look Buddy i have been testing and tuning for 33 years and for the last 32 yeas have been building race engines ... So sparky don't tell me come in here telling me to get a clue ... You get Get a Fucking Clue ....And just for your info the test runs where done at the same track , same temp and same Humidity % .. I had 100 passes on the Muzzy pipe and my first pass off the trailer the Brocks pipe when 9.37@150.40 With a crappy 60 foot time ...The Muzzy was tapped out with 100 runs and the best it ever made was 9.44 @147..
Oh my god!....I'm so sorry!....consider myself kneeling down and bowing to you.
Really makes me laugh to see how a few come out of the wood work to brag about themselves, serious egos that must be protected....that's fine and dandy if it makes you feel important.
We can talk all the shit we want and that's cool. I piss you off, you make me laugh, that's a good trade off. But the other fucker who talks down about my wife is another story....that kind of shit just has no place in any line of forum and for busa boy to think it's funny puts him at the same level with him. And he's supposed to be one of the "respected" ones?....
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posted October 11, 2006 10:47 PM
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FBA i normally don't let shit bother me , but I know dragracing inside and out. And I still stand behind my results from the two pipes. and I'm sure smoking will as well. as he will go faster yet. And the track is the best dyno hands down if you have weather stations and so on. Everyone one this board know's i never got on here and braged about my dragracing. But I would hate to know how many 1000's of passes I have made. As far as the HIDS go mine worked great on the Busa but can't speak for the 14.
Thanks Bently and FBA ...This clown has no clue about drag racing and never will either...
You guys know i keep a cool head on this website but this clown has me pissed ...Sorry for the rant .... Smokin....
Don't be pissed...it gets you nowhere. Just makes you say stupid things. Just laugh like I do. Just don't talk shit about anyone's wife and make disparaging remarks about people from foreign countries like "Stalwart" He sounds like an ignorant bigot and anyone who thinks what he posted was funny is on equal terms with him. He really should heed caution in what he posts, especially with the disparaging bullshit. If the moderator of this thread condones this kind of bigotry.....do I need to say more?
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posted October 11, 2006 11:25 PM
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Bently..I don't know a whole lot about the nitty gritty of drag racing except what I read about it from you and the other seasoned drag racers here .
then shut the  up dude.
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Bently
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posted October 12, 2006 02:59 AM
Ya I can sit at the line and have a 2 second reaction time and run 9.50. Why don't you actually go to a track and ask people who actually race if reaction time changes your et, wow that seems simple. And just remember I never slammed you or your wife, just you knowledge of dragracing which you have none. And smokin has never got on here and bragged about his 1/4 times just told his numbers so his ego is fine. Do some checking on the reaction time thing and admit you were wrong and that shows me you not so bad.
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posted October 12, 2006 04:32 AM
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BRAG RACING AT ITS FINEST....SMACKHOUSE-STYLE!!!!!
...HEY MODS....WAKE UP!!!!!!...THERE'S SO MUCH HATE IN HERE!!!...DO YOUR JOBS!!!!
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smokinZX14
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posted October 12, 2006 05:30 AM
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FBA i normally don't let shit bother me , but I know dragracing inside and out. And I still stand behind my results from the two pipes. and I'm sure smoking will as well. as he will go faster yet. And the track is the best dyno hands down if you have weather stations and so on. Everyone one this board know's i never got on here and braged about my dragracing. But I would hate to know how many 1000's of passes I have made. As far as the HIDS go mine worked great on the Busa but can't speak for the 14.
Thanks Bently and FBA ...This clown has no clue about drag racing and never will either...
You guys know i keep a cool head on this website but this clown has me pissed ...Sorry for the rant .... Smokin....
Don't be pissed...it gets you nowhere. Just makes you say stupid things. Just laugh like I do. Just don't talk shit about anyone's wife and make disparaging remarks about people from foreign countries like "Stalwart" He sounds like an ignorant bigot and anyone who thinks what he posted was funny is on equal terms with him. He really should heed caution in what he posts, especially with the disparaging bullshit. If the moderator of this thread condones this kind of bigotry.....do I need to say more?
I never Brag about my racing ... If you took the time to read any of my posts you would know that ... I also never said a word about your wife.....WHAT don't you get about R/T time? You can set at the line with the green light on for 3 hours if you like and it will not change your ET and MPH .....Get this and it's pretty simple ...If you don't move when the light goes GREEN you never break the Starting Beam...Time on your Run doesn't start till you break the Beam.... Hey give Rob Muzzy a call he will tell you the same thing ..Better yet call NHRA and tell them you are right and they are wrong ...That will go down like a lead turd..
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posted October 12, 2006 07:36 AM
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Ya I can sit at the line and have a 2 second reaction time and run 9.50. Why don't you actually go to a track and ask people who actually race if reaction time changes your et, wow that seems simple. And just remember I never slammed you or your wife, just you knowledge of dragracing which you have none. And smokin has never got on here and bragged about his 1/4 times just told his numbers so his ego is fine. Do some checking on the reaction time thing and admit you were wrong and that shows me you not so bad.
Bently you have a PM.... Smokin...
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posted October 12, 2006 08:39 AM
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. . . still a goat reaming .
You slam my Japanese wife...totally uncalled for. You can slam me in any other fashion but bringing my wife into this will put you against odds with me. I'll give you an opportunity to apologize like a man or you and will meet and that's no bullshit buddy. Redmond, Washington is beautiful country....I love visiting small towns. Microsoft is one of the many companies I consult for. I love cycling there too. I have a feeling you drive a Hummer?
-- Computer Science - specializing in forensic computer stuff...and I must mention I'm a collector of old military shit too....you should see my collection. I'd like to add a M1A to my inventory. Finding you shouldn't be too hard...maybe you can show me your milspec collection.
I'm totally serious about your low jabs about my wife.
If you are so sensitive perhaps you should just turn off your computer now. I'm not gonna apologize to you and if you're willing to make a trip to Redmond over this, it just shows what a you really are. Am I supposed to be AFRAID of your computer skills? I think not, you know what city I live in and if you decide to make the trek, WHO CARES? I still think you are a little POS with some type of complex.
You aren't gonna get an M1A1 or any other recent US armor unless you are a bona-fide museum. My newest American armor is a M42A1 Duster with twin 40-mm AA cannons. That had to come through a trade with the Florida National Guard, armor isn't sold off as scrap any more, not for many decades. Some of our British armour came out of service in the late 90's.
You are somewhat correct, I have a old '93 Hummer but it mostly sits in the garage with the other "toys."
Back to pipes: I had a Muzzy's Ti/Ti pipe on order for several months and got tired of waiting. Thanks to all of your praises of Brock's customer service, I went down that route instead. Thanks guys for all the info and I appreciate all the input and your knowledge you so willingly share. OK, I wish 1965 would stop sharing, but that's probably too much to ask.
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posted October 12, 2006 09:04 AM
Edited By: tonytooth on 12 Oct 2006 10:10
I pulled up to the start line last night next to SmokinZX14 while he finished his ice cream cone. I was at the ticket booth before he took off and he still smoked me. The moral of the story, enjoy your ice cream cone because reaction time doesn't mean shit.
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Stalwart
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posted October 12, 2006 10:22 AM
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. . . still a goat reaming .
You slam my Japanese wife...totally uncalled for. You can slam me in any other fashion but bringing my wife into this will put you against odds with me. I'll give you an opportunity to apologize like a man or you and will meet and that's no bullshit buddy. Redmond, Washington is beautiful country....I love visiting small towns. Microsoft is one of the many companies I consult for. I love cycling there too. I have a feeling you drive a Hummer?
-- Computer Science - specializing in forensic computer stuff...and I must mention I'm a collector of old military shit too....you should see my collection. I'd like to add a M1A to my inventory. Finding you shouldn't be too hard...maybe you can show me your milspec collection.
I'm totally serious about your low jabs about my wife.
If you are so sensitive perhaps you should just turn off your computer right now. I'm not gonna apologize to you, EXCEPT for the "Jap" remark, for which I'm sorry. If you're willing to make a trip to Redmond over this, it just shows what a you really are. Am I supposed to be AFRAID of your computer skills? I think not, you know what city I live in and if you decide to make the trek, WHO CARES? I still think you are a little POS with some type of complex.
You aren't gonna get an M1A1 or any other recent US armor unless you are a bona-fide museum. My newest American armor is a M42A1 Duster with twin 40-mm AA cannons. That had to come through a trade with the Florida National Guard, armor isn't sold off as scrap any more, not for many decades. Some of our British armour came out of service in the late 90's.
You are somewhat correct, I have a old '93 Hummer but it mostly sits in the garage with the other "toys."
Back to pipes: I had a Muzzy's Ti/Ti pipe on order for several months and got tired of waiting. Thanks to all of your praises of Brock's customer service, I went down that route instead. Thanks guys for all the info and I appreciate all the input and your knowledge you so willingly share. OK, I wish 1965 would stop sharing, but that's probably too much to ask.
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posted October 12, 2006 10:28 AM
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Bently..I don't know a whole lot about the nitty gritty of drag racing except what I read about it from you and the other seasoned drag racers here but, this guy has a habit of talking shit about things he obviously knows nothing about...I'm in it with him on another thread over HID's and he just won't give it up, even though he is sadly mistaken and 100% wrong.
Maybe we should just assign a moderator to your left ass cheek
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posted October 12, 2006 10:29 AM
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uh...okay
sit on the line for 2 seconds and run a 9.5...uh huh...okay
OK, for all the drag racing noobs and wannabes:
Reaction time is one of the most misunderstood parts of drag racing.
It is arguably the most important part of the run - during competition.
However, while running a time trial and trying to get a "personal best", it means NOTHING!
A simple example was when my wife (relatively inexperienced) was trying to break into the 7's (1/8 mile) in her daily driver Z28. I told her to go to the line, let the light turn green, get the revs where she wanted them, then concentrate on the launch. She did that, broke into the 7's, and was very happy. I don't remember the exact RT, but it was probably as least 3 seconds.
Another prime example would be turbo cars that have a large turbo for maximum power that take awhile to build boost. I have seen them sit there looking at the green and when the boost builds, launch to a best time.
BTW, I HAVE left on the first yellow against a buddy (just messin' with him) and it didn't seem to give me any better time! LOL! Why not, if reaction time makes a difference?
OK, for the experienced drag racers here (we know who you are), a little fun question:
What point in time is the reaction time measured FROM?
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posted October 12, 2006 10:31 AM
Is this pipe you have sold or did you make it yourself/is it avail.for the 12
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