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posted September 28, 2006 08:58 AM        
Now I see why suzuki didn't fret over the zx14

Oh boy my wife is gonna flip!



Check out the specs for the new 2007 GSXR 1000
its gonna be a monster!


the entire bike is new

This thing is gonna be a beast once you dump the exhaust!
Here I broke it down for you all!
Read and weep!
Goin to the dealer next weekend!

New Engine
New 999cc 4-stroke, 4-cylinder, liquid-cooled engine for increased power, torque and acceleration with
-forged aluminum alloy pistons,
-chrome-moly shot peend connecting rods,
-hollow camshafts,
- secondary balancer shaft for reduced vibration
-New more compact fuel injection system features the Suzuki Dual Throttle Valve System (SDTV) - with twelve smaller holes for improved fuel delivery and steeper angle for secondary injectors

-New intake and exhaust ports are reshaped and eight percent larger
- larger titanium exhaust valves,
-more aggressive camshafts,
and iridium spark plugs
-New Idle Speed Control (ISC) system for improved cold starting, consistent idle quality and reduced emissions

New high volume Suzuki Advanced Exhaust System (SAES) with equal length head pipes feeding a unique under engine chamber leading to two compact aluminum/titanium mufflers on each side
The new mid-pipe includes a Suzuki Exhaust Tuning (SET) system for maximum torque throughout the rpm range and an oxygen sensor used by the engine management system and combined with the under-engine catalyzer for reduced emissions

New larger 48mm ventilation holes between cylinders reduce pumping losses
the crankcase breather system now features a reed valve to prevent pressure waves in the airbox from reaching the crankcase
-New self adjusting hydraulic clutch minimzes changes in clutch feel over a long race
-Back-torque limiting clutch allows smooth downshifts, plus a rack and pinion operating system provides more positive clutch feel
-New engine management system is four time more powerful than the previous system and allows the rider to choose from three engine settings to match riding conditions with a handlebar mounted switch

-New larger radiator utilizes a trapezoidal shape seen on works racebikes with 10% more cooling capacity. The oil cooler now works with a larger oil pump.

New Chassis

All new aluminum alloy twin-spar frame is built using five castings for lightweight, unmatched handling and performance, increased production precision, and reduced weight.

-New braced aluminum-alloy swingarm is more rigid and features an innovative new link system which pivots on the swingarm itself for increased traction and reduced side loads.

-New DLC coated 43mm forks and rear shock now feature high and low speed compression damping along with adjustable rebound and preload settings

-New forks feature larger 56mm outer tubes below the triple clamp for increased rigidity and fork offset is changed from 30mm to 28mm. Front wheel travel is also increased from 120mm to 125mm.

-New electronically controlled steering damper uses a solenoid valve to move a tapered needle reducing or increasing oil flow to adjust damping force.

-New adjustable rider footpegs can be moved into three different positions to suit rider preferences

-New 310mm front brake discs are attached to the carrier with 12 floating mounts instead of 8 for improved heat transfer away from the disc and are also thinner at 5.0mm for reduced weight

-Rear disc works with a single piston caliper and is mounted above the swingarm for reduced braking effect on the rear suspension

New wind tunnel developed bodywork features an aggressive new style, reduced frontal area and a taller windscreen for optimum aerodynamic peformance

New vertically stacked headlight features an updated shape with a compact projector bulb and when combined with the sleek bodywork and tailsection offer maximum rider mobility and improved styling

A new easy-to-read instrument cluster includes a step motor controlled analog tachometer, digital LCD speedometer, dual tripmeters, clock, convenient gear position sensor, rpm indicator light and a new LCD engine mode indicator displaying which performance setting has been selected by the rider

Close-ratio slick shifting six-speed transmission with an adjustable back torque limiter for smoother downshifts.

cast aluminum wheels featuring thin spoke design with optimized wall thickness to reduce unsprung weight


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posted September 28, 2006 09:00 AM        Edited By: dubious on 28 Sep 2006 10:01
oh all black....

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posted September 28, 2006 09:03 AM        
Oh they fretted a lil - that's why the new Busa will not be out til next June.
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posted September 28, 2006 10:29 AM        
These bikes get more razor-edged every year. I'm beginning to have a small concern though, will the relentless persuit of small, lighter and more power are these engines and their internals built for longevity and sturdiness? I mean, if you are not the kind that gets rid of a bike every 2-4 years are you getting a bike that can stand up to the test of time reliability-wise?

I'm just asking as I dont really know the answer to this but materials like Aluminium, vanadium, and magnesium alhough lighter than steel in no way have the ability to hold up under certain stresses like steel can. (I'm not suggesting a "steel" bike btw) Can I expect to buy a modern sportbike and keep it for 10-years? There are those who's circumstances make our big one-time purchase, the only purchase for a great while. You know, modest incomes, families, mortgage, very modest disposable incomes yet a love of motorcyles, etc..

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posted September 28, 2006 10:37 AM        
quote:
These bikes get more razor-edged every year. I'm beginning to have a small concern though, will the relentless persuit of small, lighter and more power are these engines and their internals built for longevity and sturdiness? I mean, if you are not the kind that gets rid of a bike every 2-4 years are you getting a bike that can stand up to the test of time reliability-wise?

I'm just asking as I dont really know the answer to this but materials like Aluminium, vanadium, and magnesium alhough lighter than steel in no way have the ability to hold up under certain stresses like steel can. (I'm not suggesting a "steel" bike btw) Can I expect to buy a modern sportbike and keep it for 10-years? There are those who's circumstances make our big one-time purchase, the only purchase for a great while. You know, modest incomes, families, mortgage, very modest disposable incomes yet a love of motorcyles, etc..



that's why they will be pushing for the extended warrantys...they are gonna need 'em.

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posted September 28, 2006 10:53 AM        
I agree with rudebwoy,I don't buy bikes every 2 years.I wish the turn over was 4 years.Everything you buy is outdated in 1 year...like a TV
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posted September 28, 2006 11:28 AM        
That is why I am extremely impressed with shot peened rods, titanium valves, and forged pistons from the factory.
These bikes are still very reasonably reliable.
Compared with the cast and pot metals, poor machining tolerances, poor internal balancing of yesteryear, these engines are marvels of power and strength!
RPM kill motors more than HP generally... in naturally aspirated ones any way.
The new metalurgy allows us to approach 4000 fps piston speeds very reliably, especially since the new stronger rods, are swinging lighter pistons and driving lighter drivetrain with less parasitic spring tensions to control them.

If you ae the type to care for your stuff like you want it ten years from now, it will take you there!

Its all good!

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posted September 28, 2006 11:34 AM        
got a brochure from 06 same crap writen in it as the 07 model... just like dry weight gets lighter every year ...NOT the 02 gixxer is lighter than the 3 differant models since then
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posted September 28, 2006 11:56 AM        
Why would they fret?.............Diff class of bike and rider style. I'll still take my 14 over that on the mean streets any day........
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posted September 28, 2006 12:01 PM        
I don't think my 14 would mind a companion !
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posted September 28, 2006 12:06 PM        
Motorcyclist just came out with a review of all the new 1000's.
The teaser on the front page of the mag read
"Do you really need 160 HP on the street? No, but it's a good start"
Lighter and tighter, faster and faster!
Almost have to be a pro to ride these liter bikes to full potential.
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posted September 28, 2006 01:27 PM        
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That is why I am extremely impressed with shot peened rods, titanium valves, and forged pistons from the factory.
These bikes are still very reasonably reliable.
Compared with the cast and pot metals, poor machining tolerances, poor internal balancing of yesteryear, these engines are marvels of power and strength!
RPM kill motors more than HP generally... in naturally aspirated ones any way.
The new metalurgy allows us to approach 4000 fps piston speeds very reliably, especially since the new stronger rods, are swinging lighter pistons and driving lighter drivetrain with less parasitic spring tensions to control them.

If you ae the type to care for your stuff like you want it ten years from now, it will take you there!

Its all good!


+1 and great writeup up, dubious
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posted September 28, 2006 02:05 PM        
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got a brochure from 06 same crap writen in it as the 07 model... just like dry weight gets lighter every year ...NOT the 02 gixxer is lighter than the 3 differant models since then


Funny you should say that, I've also noticed the GSXR has gotten heavier every 2 years since it was introduced, the 07 is 15-20 lbs heavier than the 06! If the R1 doesn't drop too much weight it looks as if all the literbikes will weight about the same for 07.

Don't get me wrong I'm sure the 07 will still be in the hunt with the other liters.

Any official news on the R1 yet? It's cool Yamaha didn't do anything to it last year, it puts it on the same design cycle as the Suzook. So every year we have two new literbikes to look forward to.
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posted September 28, 2006 07:00 PM        
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oh all black....



gettin rid of my wife's R1...want her to look at the K7...
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posted September 28, 2006 07:10 PM        
They have a low seat height as well.. Nice for the ladies
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posted September 28, 2006 07:16 PM        
All Black doesn't look like it's available in the US. That's just not right!
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posted September 28, 2006 07:34 PM        
Where then...?
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posted September 28, 2006 07:38 PM        
You don't like the Halloween model?
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posted September 28, 2006 08:42 PM        
That's gonna be one evil bike
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posted September 28, 2006 11:35 PM        Edited By: sands on 29 Sep 2006 00:38
Suzuki has been enlarging the crankcase ventilation holes " for reduced pumping losses" on the last new engine and the engine before that...Exactly how much bigger can they get ?

Titanium valves ? Well, I'd be more impressed from a reliability standpoint if they were stainless steel..

Hollow camshafts...That was on the 05' and 06' as well..

Forged pistons...On the 05' 06' as well ?

I do like the hydraulic clutch...

The more aggressive cams...I wonder if they're going after the ZX10's top end ?
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posted September 29, 2006 06:01 AM        
oops, meant springs with less tension controlling lighter valvetrain! not drivetrain.

In any event the bike picked up weight from th euro spec catalytic exhaust...
they all will get the cats and the weight....

Larger valves, ports and more aggressive cams...
well yes they are going after more top end power with the larger ports and valves, the cams well more agressive means more lift and steeper ramps, with the same duration to me, but likely went for more duration too.
In any event I see suzuki building an engine with more top end while NOT giving up midrange. Undoubtably another step forward in evolution, too bad EPA has put a slight damper on things.
If I bought one the exhaust would be the first to go anyway, my only consideration would be if it would have an exhaust at all( turbo) or another smeg... love the sound!

Since I put the smeg on the bike I never used the horn, so it has been removed... gotother idea's in mind for the button, and this way i gained another 1/4" clearance to drop the forks, without having the fender pounding the horn into my radiator.

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posted September 29, 2006 07:43 AM        
Most lieky black in canada as in the past!
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posted September 29, 2006 10:50 AM        
We had black, but if I remember, it was a special color limited edition and not listed in the past...that should be one hot bike! One great thing about Suzuki is that they have a handle on heat management...the K5/6 never blew much heat if any on the rider...like the Busa as well. That's one thing I miss about those bikes...(they are great machines)...

I see they mention, or seem to talk about 2 cans now? Is that your understanding or am I misreading the spec?
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posted September 29, 2006 01:08 PM        
actually a chamber under the motor and dual catalytic exhaust... thats where the weight gain came from for sure!
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posted September 29, 2006 01:13 PM        
yup black was very limited... put your deposit in soon if you want one.
Blackfoot exported every black one they had from what i heard, and yes I beleive it, at the time the C$ was weak, there was high demand for the bike, and I have NEVER seen the 05 production BLACK G1K in person yet.

Put it this way your neighbor likely will never have one... I like that .

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