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1badzx12r


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posted September 17, 2006 02:36 PM        
only reason you dont see more often is the last year unrestricted was 2000... because the zx14 is faster busaboy
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racer53


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posted September 17, 2006 03:25 PM        
who is this joe a. guy anyway? i'll bet he dont even own a motorcycle.
what's up joe? apparently they dont have a clue.

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joea


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posted September 17, 2006 03:42 PM        
I do have a Kaw actually two of them........

but seriously.......I am still trying to explain to my son
how the zx14 kicked butt.............

I would love to........but I cant find cause to show it.............

props to any of you guys that go out and pursue land speed records........

including the 14 guys.......I am pulling for ya.......

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posted September 17, 2006 04:11 PM        
yah, whatever. *SHRUG*
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landracing


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posted September 17, 2006 04:28 PM        
quote:
Joea--

From your statements I take it that you are not familar with the classes of Land Speed Racing. You can't compare bike in different class catagories. It's like comparing apples to oranges.The APS class is "special construction" and has nothing to do with a production bike either with the fairing or it's engine. It's the most modified class sit-on bike one can enter.

If your seriously interested in learning more about the classes go to:
http://www.speedtrialsbybub.com/2006_event/AMA-BonSR%27s-2006(v3-1).pdf
or e-mail me.


Flyboy,

Can you tell me why your post here is so funny?
Can JoeA call you with all his questions on LSR stuff?
Will you be his mentor if he shows his ugly azz on the salt???

I want to see him do something noteable also instead of talking about it....

Hey JoeA get a grip and buy a rule book... Why don't you show whatever piece of junk you have to bring on the salt.... I bet you get performance enhancements from Ace Hardware...

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stevewfl


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posted September 17, 2006 05:27 PM        

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flyboy


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posted September 17, 2006 05:33 PM        
Joea-

You sound like you are trying to learn so I will help you.

The picture in this post is me in the MPS class, not the production class.

The density altitude at Bonneville last week was around 6,000 ft. Most people use a formula of 3% change in power/speed for every 1,000 ft. So if my stock engine with stock pipe averaged 189 mph. what would that be at sea level?

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joea


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posted September 17, 2006 05:35 PM        
geeez guys, I am just trying to understand what defines
"kicking butt"........as it relates to the zx14 at Bonneville.............

I have perused the results at many Bonneville meets and
my son and I cant figure out how a new zx14 running 192-195 mph
with aftermarket pipe, and body modifications such as rear fender
removed........which is slower than many bikes with less displacement
and through stock exhaust and some with stock engines.............qualifies
as kicking butt..........

Joe

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landracing


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posted September 17, 2006 05:51 PM        Edited By: landracing on 17 Sep 2006 19:01
Flyboy,

Are you teaching JoeA

OR

Is JoeA teaching you?

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joea


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posted September 17, 2006 05:57 PM        Edited By: joea on 17 Sep 2006 19:04
..........I say again.........lets let results speak for themselves...............

I thought the goal was to achieve real world speed.......on the venue you
are racing on.......not magazine/internet banter about some calculated
speed at sea level with xxx air............

ok........let me ask you this..........I will tell you what the speed would
be at sea level.........based on your hp assumptions.............

IF ........YOU can tell me to what degree the aerodynamic drag
changed with the reduced density altitude..............

please ponder this and let me know as I am keenly interested in where
you think the battle goes as you go up in altitude and temperature............

as it relates to hp lost.......and aero gained.........

additionally...I understand by your post.......that the aftermarket exhaust system
was utilized in MPS-F class.........you went 192.......slower than your production
class runs with stock exhaust...........do you normally make less hp with the Brock
pipe........?????

also was the rear fender off during the production class runs...

thank you in advance for the enlightenment.......

in the end.......that is what is so special and awesome about sites like this...to facilitate
an enhanced knowledge base.....

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WARBIRD


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posted September 17, 2006 06:04 PM        
flyboy..........Joe has been at this Bonneville thing a long time. He enters a Kawasaki also......... Just trying to prevent further embarrassment................:wink

Quote:
"LMAO...

JoeA doesn't know anything about LSR... Just some hillbilly is the middle of anywhere."


Yeah............Rapid City SD can seem like nowhere but htere are a lot of real fast guys there................

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WARBIRD


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posted September 17, 2006 06:06 PM        
quote:
who is this joe a. guy anyway? i'll bet he dont even own a motorcycle.
what's up joe? apparently they dont have a clue.



Heh heh..........


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joea


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posted September 17, 2006 06:09 PM        
warbird......you must have me confused with someone else........

I have seen bonneville before though.....including on tv.....and in
magazines and on internet....there is alot of data on the net I have
found..........

I my bike isnt quite 1000cc and is over 16 yrs old.........I am not worthy
of the likes of busa's, 12's, and zx14's...........

I am deeply hopeful that the 14 can do some butt kicking.........just
havent seen it yet............


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stevewfl


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posted September 17, 2006 06:14 PM        
insecure folks jealous of ZX14 owners posting crap are all and in need of their boyfriends kicking them in their gonads
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WARBIRD


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posted September 17, 2006 06:25 PM        
You are right.........I must have you confused with someone else. Sorry.

APS-BF Joe Amo / Team Amo Kawasaki 8/06 207.173
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racer53


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posted September 17, 2006 06:26 PM        
joe amo. bonneville, blown 1000 240 mph record. 244 mph top speed
nitrous 1000. 223 mph record.
how many times you been over 220 joe? probably more times than all the members on this board.

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joea


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posted September 17, 2006 06:28 PM        
stevewfl............please...............TELL ME.............

what has the zx14 done in real world...top speed runs..............that
would cause............me to be jealous about.........or my son
to be impressed with...........




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WARBIRD


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posted September 17, 2006 06:30 PM        
quote:
joe amo. bonneville, blown 1000 240 mph record. 244 mph top speed
nitrous 1000. 223 mph record.
how many times you been over 220 joe? probably more times than all the members on this board.


Heh heh........
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stevewfl


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posted September 17, 2006 06:32 PM        
quote:
joe amo. bonneville, blown 1000 240 mph record. 244 mph top speed
nitrous 1000. 223 mph record.
how many times you been over 220 joe? probably more times than all the members on this board.




joe's numbers are for another thread, perhaps in the aprilia scooter message boards. can we keep things on topic? I thought this topic pertained to a blue ZX14 at boneeeville

but its ok if you post yer real feels which are "joe is my hero"
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WARBIRD


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posted September 17, 2006 06:36 PM        
?????????????
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stevewfl


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posted September 17, 2006 06:42 PM        
quote:
stevewfl............please...............TELL ME.............

what has the zx14 done in real world...top speed runs..............that
would cause............me to be jealous about.........or my son
to be impressed with...........



oh please, tell me why you even bother to attack folks on the threads here anyway. feeling insecure huh and by the way, if you don't have a busa or ZX14, why bother going to these threads and bashing.

I'm confident there are threads specifically for you hero type guys that ride litre bikes in excess of 220 MPH anyway.

why not waste yer time going to the ghey rights marches and bashing us straight folks geez
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stevewfl


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posted September 17, 2006 06:54 PM        
[quotemy ten yr old son is here and has his opinion as well...........its very close to mine
I am trying to educate him about lsr.......classes...........



lmao who cares?
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lucky14


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posted September 17, 2006 07:29 PM        
quote:
The density altitude at Bonneville last week was around 6,000 ft. Most people use a formula of 3% change in power/speed for every 1,000 ft. So if my stock engine with stock pipe averaged 189 mph. what would that be at sea level?


CONGRATS, Flyboy!!!
You got respect from me no matter what the numbers just for running there!
Ignore the Internet Idiots that just don't get it......................or don't want to.
MHO.

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joea


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posted September 17, 2006 07:37 PM        Edited By: joea on 17 Sep 2006 20:40
thats interesting............you keep talking about gay banter....when
asked questions as it pertains to this topic.....and ya seem to be
bragging about a wrangler in you sign line.......

could ya try answering my question (s)..........??

"""stevewfl............please...............TELL ME.............

what has the zx14 done in real world...top speed runs..............that
would cause............me to be jealous about.........or my son
to be impressed with...........""""

use engineering terminology if possible.........

and the main bike of topic is red...(ie in the picture).......that ran at BUB meet...in sept.....

or would you like to talk about the blue 14 that ran at Speedweek in Aug 06....??

please let me know the qualifications to this thread...........how many Kawasaki's do
I need to own to ask questions and participate in the dialogue.........??

as far as "who cares"..........the topic starter flyboy DOES.....he is speaking about
education with regard to lsr classes..........some of us are trying to stay on topic....

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landracing


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posted September 17, 2006 08:12 PM        
Read it again, I dont recall JoeA saying anything about his speeds. He is very humble person when talking... He doesnt "hero" his speeds on the boards. He was asking a simple question and never made reference to himself at any post.

And since the cat is out of the bag on that one,, Flyboy I believe JoeA has been going to Bonneville since 1991, was part of the rules committee's, and also a member of the 200 mph club... Been 223 on nitrous in the 1000cc MPS-F class, and fastest speed to date at Speedweek this year is 246 mph on 998cc...

So When you want to educate JoeA on the rules please enlighten him....

How is a Zx14 going 180's and 190's setting the world on fire.. And that was the original post. The post JoeA has been trying to ask and the rants go on...??? There is only one answer, ITS NOT... While it's a great first time effort come back next year and go faster, when you are faster the the lesser displacement class then you can claim kicked butt...

Running an open record and setting the record is ok to do, have fun doing it... But when you are off by more then 10 mph then the next lower class???

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