smiddy1
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posted August 28, 2006 07:10 PM
tech question and thoughts
Could the 14 have a built in 2-step and auto shifter?!
Could you tap into the shift light with the activation lead from a engine kill box? If it's not 12v a relay could be used. When the built in launch and or shift light is turned on this would kill the engine. the question is, would how would this perform on the launch.
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fastestbusaaround
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posted August 28, 2006 07:30 PM
Huh??
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smiddy1
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posted August 28, 2006 07:33 PM
Just thought of something. On the launch, the kill box would try to shift the lever. Sh#t. Still would be good for a auto shift.
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lietoome
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posted August 28, 2006 07:38 PM
Are you wanting to use the shift light as a trigger for the air/electric shifter? Doesn't sound to far fetched...
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smiddy1
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posted August 28, 2006 07:40 PM
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Huh??
remember the nlr 2-step? The launch rev controler with built in engine kill for the air shifter. Well the launch control is out because the kill box would shift the air shifter when activated by the launch light, but it still could be used as an auto shifter.
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smiddy1
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posted August 28, 2006 07:41 PM
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Are you wanting to use the shift light as a trigger for the air/electric shifter? Doesn't sound to far fetched...
Right, that's what I'm thinking.
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lietoome
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posted August 28, 2006 07:46 PM
Seems simple enough, no one has a product that does that yet? I'm still relatively new to motorcycle, much less racing.
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posted August 28, 2006 11:58 PM
Auto shift yes...
2 step...Not too good...These bikes nowadays are best riden as a no bar bike...You cant just throw the clutch away it will bog...
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posted August 29, 2006 11:13 PM
 Edited By: speedgene on 30 Aug 2006 00:16
You could ground the R/W (red-white wire) from the kill switch connector ... plug your long "shifter kill wire" from the switch to the shifter. Use the other wire end for your trigger device?. Design a moveable bracket, so when the air shifter moves, your trigger/toggle/push button times in with the shift to kill the engine that split second?
If that fails to work, use the safety kick stand switch wire? If that doesn't work, use the safety clutch start wire?
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iflyphi
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posted August 30, 2006 05:25 AM
The launch light and the rpm light send/get there signals via the CAN bus, so to answer your question, no. You can get an rpm signal off the ECU, I believe its the blue/white wire. If you plan on using a two-step, better have a wheelie bar, or your going over backwards. I will be installing an autometer auto-shifter shortly. Already have the muzzy airshifter installed. Will be using the RPM signal from the ECU, and providing power to the airshift activation switch.
BTW, If you use a "kill switch" to momentarily kill the engine for the airshifter, it also kills the powercommander momentarily. Problem is, the PC takes about 1 to 2 seconds to reboot. Not the way you wanna kill the bike. Use something that kills the F.I. momentarily, leaving the PC alone.
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posted August 30, 2006 05:57 AM
You guys and your gadgets... I keep thinking stock. Good call, iflyphi.
How about pulling the R (red) wire from the "Spark Stick's" junction box, and hook a (fused) hot wire directly to the spark stick junction box, then place the kill switch (signal) in between? You would also need to toggle the wire to shut off; since it's hooked directly to the battery!
Does this loophole rebooting mode, and does the Pcom recognize a momentary spark signal loss to reboot itself?
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smiddy1
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posted August 30, 2006 04:55 PM
Edited By: smiddy1 on 30 Aug 2006 18:02
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The launch light and the rpm light send/get there signals via the CAN bus, so to answer your question, no. You can get an rpm signal off the ECU, I believe its the blue/white wire. If you plan on using a two-step, better have a wheelie bar, or your going over backwards. I will be installing an autometer auto-shifter shortly. Already have the muzzy airshifter installed. Will be using the RPM signal from the ECU, and providing power to the airshift activation switch.
BTW, If you use a "kill switch" to momentarily kill the engine for the airshifter, it also kills the powercommander momentarily. Problem is, the PC takes about 1 to 2 seconds to reboot. Not the way you wanna kill the bike. Use something that kills the F.I. momentarily, leaving the PC alone.
What are you talking about? Are you telling me that if you tap into the built in shift light ( I don't know the voltage so you might need a relay), that you could not activate a KILL BOX. What kill switch would you be talking about? A kill box like the one that is supplied with your muzzy air shifter (the digi kill) does not kill the pc3. I've never had a problem with running a 2-step with my 2 busas I've had or a cousin's gsxr 750, although they were stretched, I've never ended up on my back. The whole point is not to buy what you already have.
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