posted August 19, 2006 12:18 PM
Edited By: vegasdude on 19 Aug 2006 13:22
Took out my flies today I know that this is not a new thing, however, I did learn something today. I took my bike over to my mechanic's house to take out the flies. I advised him that he probably needed to heat up the screwdriver as these screws are prone to stripping and they do have lock-tite on them. He said no need to heat if you use the proper screwdriver and proper screwdriver seating technique.........I said "What"? So he pulled out a #2 screwdriver about 16" long and put the driver into the screw head and with slight pressure he moved the driver back and forth until the driver tip was fully seated in the screwhead and then simply twisted the screwdriver back and forth with slight down pressure and then a little pop and the screw broke loose and the screw was so tight on the screwdriver head that he had to pull it off. I was pretty amazed at this. So he let me do one and it worked like a charm. He then proceeded to take off all the flies in short order. I am sure some of you guys know this, but I didn't and it worked really well. The long driver gave the proper torque to turn the screw and the proper seating of the screwdriver really let you "bite" into the screw. You just keep "seating the screwdriver" until all the side to slde play is gone.The bike runs great and I put Brock's map in for GEN 3 and no flies. Runs real smooth!!
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posted August 19, 2006 01:28 PM
You will enjoy having the flies removed makes the bike alot more fun to ride on the street. I knew that trick with the scredriver but one of mine still stripped out, had to use neddle nose visegrips came right out.
posted August 19, 2006 01:48 PM
Read through all the posts Chris...one thing with the TRE is that you will lose the gear indicator...and the TRE won't give you the same power as removing the flies. Do a search...there is a lot of testing and info on this.
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posted August 19, 2006 05:19 PM
When I get around to doing mine, I'll definitely employ your "seating" tip, but I'm thinking I'll also heat the screws with a soldering iron.
posted August 19, 2006 10:09 PM
my bikes' screws had no locktite visible..the screws are fairly soft so the above technique of seating the driver is a good idea..all mine came out all right but I wouldn't put the same ones back....nor would I ever put the flies back..ever...ever.
posted August 20, 2006 06:59 AM
The quickest way to grief on this kind of job is to confuse Pozidrive and Philips screwdrivers. Get it wrong and the blade won't seat correctly.
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posted August 22, 2006 09:13 PM
why you want that, ZXLNT? dude... I'll sell ya a phillips screwdriver... same effect... much cheaper.
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posted August 24, 2006 01:45 PM
I have been doing a lot of reading today, including that PDF discussing the TRE mod vs. the secondary throttle plate removal (aka flies). Very interesting indeed. Better power down low is very appealing, especially for someone who likes the occasional wheelies.
I don't think I'd want to install a TRE because of the gear position indicator issue. I guess it disables the neutral light too. Yuck!
So that leaves the removal of the flies. The thing that concerns me is... that article sure made it sound like a bad idea to remove the flies for street use. It messes up your idle and rideability? Throttle isn't as smooth? I will be riding this bike every day to and from work in heavy traffic. I also will be going on rides in the twisties. So I want the bike to stay smooth.
What's everyone's take on this now? Have you guys figured things out to a further point where the negatives associated with removing the flies are no longer a problem?
posted August 24, 2006 02:25 PM
The article is not up to date with the streetability. You MUST run a Power Commander and the correct map. Otherwise there is a dangerously lean condition in the lower part of the range. The drivability is great with a good map. Most report that everything is fine. Just a big bunch more torque down low.
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posted August 24, 2006 03:58 PM
I ride my bike daily with no flies, and regret not doing it sooner. My bike has no staling, or issues with the flies. However I do have a power commander, and mapping. I love my bike, and I have an appointment on monday for a custom dynomap session. i need this since I have new exhaust.
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