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dcm 21


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posted August 09, 2006 09:44 PM        
no flies,stock pipe,16 tooth ,schnitz map[w/flies]compensated with pc 3 set manually to full fuel on low and mid rpm equal sweet response..12000 kilometers later try to wipe the smile off my face..maybe I'm just lucky but mine's working for me..no bog..nice idle..smooth even power picks up real nice @4k..might try an extra tooth up rear just for extra fun[can I take anymore?]
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posted August 09, 2006 09:47 PM        Edited By: dubious on 9 Aug 2006 22:48
wow you got 12000 k on it!

ride is rain or shine I take it?
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cls


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posted August 10, 2006 04:34 AM        
Gen. 3, flies out, TRE, Brock's map...Mine is relatively flat below 2.5K. Ok from there to 3K. Strong from there on up. I've said in a couple of places, I wish it was stronger from right off idle. Just the nature of the beast, I'm afraid. All things considered, it's a pretty minor complaint. Still, I sure would like it better if it'd do it...
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posted August 10, 2006 04:57 AM        
Well FBA I know how to wheelie Can wheelie an Sv 650 thru a 6 gears sit it down when I feel like it, wheelied mj fjr thru 3 gears, and can wheelie the 14 but I thought he was tallikng about power wheelies and my 14 won't do the. Ya I can clutch it up in second or to the double whack but not straight power.
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htosado


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posted August 10, 2006 05:13 AM        
I can straight power in second and once in third, but like busa said it's in the high 8000's. in third it's high nines. It's the throttle on this bike! I have to over-reach to pull um in 2nd and 3rd, it's too long of a throttle turn.
I reached over at 2000 rpm in 1st gear and yanked on it just to see, and the bike literally jumped and shot the front vertical scaring the shit out of me. Reaching over on the throttle put me in an awkward position once I was up, and I was uncomfortable doing it. This is what got me looking for new throttles, or adjustments. I think my times will greatly improve overall, and I will launch better.

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GUNNER


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posted August 10, 2006 06:58 AM        
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Well FBA I know how to wheelie Can wheelie an Sv 650 thru a 6 gears sit it down when I feel like it, wheelied mj fjr thru 3 gears, and can wheelie the 14 but I thought he was tallikng about power wheelies and my 14 won't do the. Ya I can clutch it up in second or to the double whack but not straight power.


That's SAD because my 12R will roll over backwards in second from strait power. I was passing a car just a week ago from second and just about the time I got next to his door the bitch headed for the moon. It looked as though I was being a real ass, but she wanted to do that on her own. I can't believe the 14 won't do that.

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posted August 10, 2006 07:18 AM        
A - it's longer
B - it's lower
C - lower center of gravity
D - lower swingarm pivot point

Get it?

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Bently


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posted August 10, 2006 10:01 AM        
I actually like the fact it don't wheelie, but for the track
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MATTZ14


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posted August 10, 2006 10:19 AM        
Just wanted to interject to fish that I also read ON HERE, that Brock had changed his mind on the flies situation.

You guys in NY have fun. There is nice riding there. I'm in northern Michigan so won't ask to join, but my old lady is from that area and I know what it's like.

Don't think Dubious will make it either. LMAO

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Bently


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posted August 10, 2006 10:41 AM        
Thanks for backing me up MATTZ14.
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posted August 10, 2006 11:32 AM        
Brock on flies out: Brock told me in person at Kil-Kare in Xenia this past Tuesday, for the 2nd time in 3 weeks, about having to "eat crow" about his original opinion on the flies out as a track only modification. He said he rode the bike all over at Mid-Ohio last weekend with no issues.
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Bently


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posted August 10, 2006 11:59 AM        
Thanks Slates. exactly what he told me. And I would reccomend his stuff over anybodies out there.
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speedgene


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posted August 10, 2006 01:15 PM        
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I was playing around with the bike when i noticed the bog. Im rolling when i open the throttle. I dont have any issue once its moving. This was just something i wanted to see if tuning would solve. If there is nothing i can do about it. Im fine with that. I just want to get to the point where i say { Ah Shit this is a fast bike}.


You have both TPS units working together. Even though the Subs are out, the Main plate's draw the vacuum on the IAP sensor. This is what gives you the kick. But the "lag" is the "dual working TPS signals" still controlling the fuel spray. In other words, there is no getting around the "phantom plate"... The ECU will still read the (moving) shaft gear'd to the Sub's TPS. You are kind of locked in a (slight), "linear" mode?... IMO
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posted August 10, 2006 05:38 PM        
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I'd be up for a 14 run. My Ultra is currently waiting on me to replace it's valve springs for some with alittle less pressure(Noisy valvetrain!) & there's no way I would make it on the Duece! Street Rod's currently in surgery! It's getting a ZX10 Fiberglas tail installed!
Did I mention I'd be up for taking the 14.

Yea , I think it's safe to say Dubious wont be there.

Sometime in the next few weeks if you're game...we'll wait for some great weather and get the 14's together...my wife fuck's off for vacation with my daughter on the 15th for 10 days...I'm good anytime thereafter that! I can be in LG by 11 AM easy on the weekend...have some great roads there to play on! Got a few other sportbikers that'll join us...some Busa's K5's etc...will be a blast!

Agreed on Dubious -- he won't be there :P


I have to check a map to see how many miles I'll be running & maybe set up some accomodations. I will let you know when I can work this out. I try to round up a buddy or two to take the run up.
I'd really like to make this happen.
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posted August 10, 2006 08:50 PM        
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Just wanted to interject to fish that I also read ON HERE, that Brock had changed his mind on the flies situation.



+1 I read where Brock changed his mind too...I believe he said in the same thread "I have to eat crowe..." thats why I was hesitant to order from Brock because the article on bikeland still quoted Brock as saying the bike sux on the street with flies out (and continues to hype the product) but Brock posted otherwise on here!?!? Wasn't a big deal....

Anyway my Brock exhaust and PC shipped - Muzzy helped me with my decision as I was waiting for Muzzy to make more headers and midpipes (and the Muzzy cost of production of frame sliders is in gouge territory)
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dcm 21


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posted August 10, 2006 09:11 PM        
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wow you got 12000 k on it!

ride is rain or shine I take it?
.mostly shine..been lucky weather-wise this year rains during week ..clear on my days off..no wife or kids or such so long rides are regular occurance..the miles melt away on a 14...once you're out of town...I also put about 3k this Spring[once in a while we get a little wet.]. on my ex-10r before purchasing my latest love...

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posted August 11, 2006 02:51 AM        
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I'd be up for a 14 run. My Ultra is currently waiting on me to replace it's valve springs for some with alittle less pressure(Noisy valvetrain!) & there's no way I would make it on the Duece! Street Rod's currently in surgery! It's getting a ZX10 Fiberglas tail installed!
Did I mention I'd be up for taking the 14.

Yea , I think it's safe to say Dubious wont be there.

Sometime in the next few weeks if you're game...we'll wait for some great weather and get the 14's together...my wife fuck's off for vacation with my daughter on the 15th for 10 days...I'm good anytime thereafter that! I can be in LG by 11 AM easy on the weekend...have some great roads there to play on! Got a few other sportbikers that'll join us...some Busa's K5's etc...will be a blast!

Agreed on Dubious -- he won't be there :P


I have to check a map to see how many miles I'll be running & maybe set up some accomodations. I will let you know when I can work this out. I try to round up a buddy or two to take the run up.
I'd really like to make this happen.

If yer comin from around NYC...it's about 175 miles or so on i87...2.5 hours with stops for gas and pissing...LOL...make it happen dude...short ride. It's exit 22-19 off the i87, just up from Queensbury...
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