htosado
Zone Head
Posts: 949
|
posted August 09, 2006 07:48 PM
I weigh 235, and can power wheelie in second no problem. No double throttle or anything. i do have to be about 4000 rpm's higher than in first gear to do it. with the flies out, I don't have to rev so high in first to do it.
  
|
serius blk
Zone Head
Posts: 543
|
posted August 09, 2006 07:53 PM
yea i have brocks no flies map in it now. Im 246 and the bike will not power wheelie in second. If i speed shift it from 1to 2nd it will come up sometimes and sit back down.
|
zx1kr
Pro
Posts: 1301
|
posted August 09, 2006 08:02 PM
 Edited By: zx1kr on 9 Aug 2006 21:04
I just checked your profile. I believe Galveston is Sea Level. Used to have a blonde female friend of the dancer variety that came from Galveston.
But that's another story.
____________
|
zx1kr
Pro
Posts: 1301
|
posted August 09, 2006 08:04 PM
Wow, just lost my train of thought! The point I was making is that I'm Sea level. This map we probably work well!
____________
|
GUNNER
Needs a life
Posts: 5778
|
posted August 09, 2006 08:13 PM
quote:
I just checked your profile. I believe Galveston is Sea Level. Used to have a blonde female friend of the dancer variety that came from Galveston.
But that's another story.
Do tell !!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
serius blk
Zone Head
Posts: 543
|
posted August 09, 2006 08:13 PM
That blonde must have given you good memories. But yea i was thinking the same think about the map. I was wondering about the 16t. Right know i can keep the front end down with it at stock height. I know it maybe more difficult with the 16. But hey if it performs well, ill just have to learn the bike again.
|
Stalwart
Needs a job
Posts: 3360
|
posted August 09, 2006 08:18 PM
I weigh 225 and when I start the bike, I cry like a little girl . . . :P
____________
Stuart
________________________________
Ridin' the Trump train.
|
zx1kr
Pro
Posts: 1301
|
posted August 09, 2006 08:18 PM
Edited By: zx1kr on 9 Aug 2006 21:19
I'am going 16/42 the accel is insane! Top speed is 185mph. I have the stock gearing now. But, I have seen the results of 16/42 and I'm going there! Not quite as good as the Dancer from Galveston but, as close as you could get on 2 wheels!
If you decide you might want one let me know!
____________
|
fastestbusaaround
Needs a life
I eat Fish...
Posts: 7889
|
posted August 09, 2006 08:18 PM
quote:
did you not read the 18 page writeup we have about removing the flies??
I talked to BD about that...his experience with bogging was limited to the Dyno, not the street as he mentioned in another post later on...no need to update the original post, but maybe add the other one to it is all.
Mine DOES not bog, but at 2K...well, these bikes and Busa's at 2K will not be as responsive as a V Twin....they're high revving motors. They weren't designed for low RPM throttle snap. My guess is that his ride is not mapped (if he has a PC at all) or mapped poorly.
Fish, IMO and others here will agree that this bike runs way better and power delivery is far more linear with the flies out rather than in.
Why anyone would WOT at 2K is beyond me..bit I'm sure it can be tuned to avoid bogging even at those speeds.
I had an 04 FJR with a 9K redline and it had stupid power down low...no problem for WOT's at 2K and it would lift at 2.5k...but my Busa's wouldn't and they had the same down response as the 14 (flies out). Fucking motor idles at 1250 with pipes...how could it handle WOT at 2K anyway with an 11K redline without serious mapping and timing mods?
My guess is that with timing mods, the low end response would be even better than it is now...there is still quite a bit of timing retard in the lower gears...that doesn't change by removing the flies...just my .02 cents.
____________
FYYFF!!!
|
fastestbusaaround
Needs a life
I eat Fish...
Posts: 7889
|
posted August 09, 2006 08:25 PM
quote:
Well my bike flat rips, With Brocks Smeg and map with flies out, but I can't wheelie in second, I would think no matter what set up is on the bike It is going to bog if opend wide up below 2000 rpm, and any inline four I've been on don't acelerate before 3000. just my 2 cents.
While I haven't wheelied it hard, my buddy has (my bike) in 2nd and 3rd at 8k+ and had ZERO issue keeping it up for miles on end...sitting on the fucking tank, not the seat. It's all about the rider...this bike will lift in the 1st 3 gears for the guy that knows how to pick it up...I'm not inferring that you don't, but just saying that I've seen it done on my own bike by a guy that can wheelie a sit-down lawnmower. 
Not to argue with ya but,. Dorito says he lifts it in 2nd at 8500 and I've seen it done...
____________
FYYFF!!!
|
zx1kr
Pro
Posts: 1301
|
posted August 09, 2006 08:27 PM
quote:
quote:
I just checked your profile. I believe Galveston is Sea Level. Used to have a blonde female friend of the dancer variety that came from Galveston.
But that's another story.
Do tell !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ah, my wife's sitting next to me. Not good time. Although, I was still married to my ex-wife when the dancer from Galveston materialized.
____________
|
serius blk
Zone Head
Posts: 543
|
posted August 09, 2006 08:32 PM
FBA, yes i do have the pc3 with brocks no flies map. I was playing around with the bike when i noticed the bog. Im rolling when i open the throttle. I dont have any issue once its moving. This was just something i wanted to see if tuning would solve. If there is nothing i can do about it. Im fine with that. I just want to get to the point where i say { Ah Shit this is a fast bike}. I only found out how much faster it was when racing a friend on his 12. By myself the bike felt as though it wasnt moving fast. Beside someone was a total different story. My friend had me from rolling 1st. He jumped 21/2 bikes do to my 14 wheeling. I caught and passed him in 2nd going to 3rd. It felt slow but was actually moving fast.
|
fastestbusaaround
Needs a life
I eat Fish...
Posts: 7889
|
posted August 09, 2006 08:34 PM
ZX1KR...yer pissin me off now... I had decided that a 16T front was enough...don't make me re-think all that now...damn you man...
____________
FYYFF!!!
|
vegasdude
Zone Head
Posts: 821
|
posted August 09, 2006 08:35 PM
FBA, if your gonna do it right, then do it right!!................... 
|
zx1kr
Pro
Posts: 1301
|
posted August 09, 2006 08:36 PM
It's all good! Just don't run up on me w/ your 1t down frt. unless your gonna hold it open past 186mph. Cuz you too can go to license plate reading school w/ TRU195! LOL
____________
|
fastestbusaaround
Needs a life
I eat Fish...
Posts: 7889
|
posted August 09, 2006 08:37 PM
Fuck -- you guys are killin me...just fucking killin me..VD, did you do a 16/42 also?
____________
FYYFF!!!
|
fastestbusaaround
Needs a life
I eat Fish...
Posts: 7889
|
posted August 09, 2006 08:38 PM
quote:
It's all good! Just don't run up on me w/ your 1t down frt. unless your gonna hold it open past 186mph. Cuz you too can go to license plate reading school w/ TRU195! LOL
Yer a lot closer to me than Dubious...Montreal and NY are 6 hours apart...I might see you there in the near future...You do Laconia or Americade?
____________
FYYFF!!!
|
zx1kr
Pro
Posts: 1301
|
posted August 09, 2006 08:44 PM
I used to! I'm juggling 2 business' now & I'm lucky to get an occasional track day. Usually, when I do laconia it's an H-D thing. Maybe one of these weekends towards the end of summer I'd be up for a run to the North. You'd have to meet somewhere in the middle. Problem is I'm not fimilar with too many places in the middle of NY. Where's Dubious?
____________
|
fastestbusaaround
Needs a life
I eat Fish...
Posts: 7889
|
posted August 09, 2006 08:49 PM
Lake George has great riding/food and is about 1/2 way between you and me. (40 miles north of Albany). I know the area very well....Dubious is in Alberta...2000 miles from me....more from you...
We could do the 14's or the HOG's...either way!
____________
FYYFF!!!
|
zx1kr
Pro
Posts: 1301
|
posted August 09, 2006 08:56 PM
Edited By: zx1kr on 9 Aug 2006 21:58
I'd be up for a 14 run. My Ultra is currently waiting on me to replace it's valve springs for some with alittle less pressure(Noisy valvetrain!) & there's no way I would make it on the Duece! Street Rod's currently in surgery! It's getting a ZX10 Fiberglas tail installed!
Did I mention I'd be up for taking the 14.
Yea , I think it's safe to say Dubious wont be there.
____________
|
dubious
Needs a life
Needs more time to ride!
Posts: 8442
|
posted August 09, 2006 09:00 PM
Northern Alberta, 1000 miles north of Billings Montana!
yes , I know... it sucks to be me.
I'm not a city guy though, I dispise crowds and traffic.
Love wilderness and open space.
I'd either curl up and die, or end up a mass murderer, if I HAD to live in Toronto, or NY.
Oustskirts of Montreal, northern Quebec and Northern Ontario are very beautiful though.
I was born in and grew up 80 miles north of Sudbury.
Lots of nice empty curvy highways in the Canadian shield.
____________
natural selection.....
destiny will overcome intervention.
Some are not worthy of the effort.
|
zx1kr
Pro
Posts: 1301
|
posted August 09, 2006 09:06 PM
Holy Shit! Yo dude, you are WAY up there! I'm putting my long johns on just thinking about it.
I do agree w/ the open space thing. We have 1 cop for every 4 cars on the road over hear. I live on Long Island though. It's pretty nice riding wise compared to NYC. Although, I have been known to hit NYC on a Saturday Night & check out the sites(titty bars).
____________
|
fastestbusaaround
Needs a life
I eat Fish...
Posts: 7889
|
posted August 09, 2006 09:09 PM
Edited By: fastestbusaaround on 9 Aug 2006 22:11
quote:
I'd be up for a 14 run. My Ultra is currently waiting on me to replace it's valve springs for some with alittle less pressure(Noisy valvetrain!) & there's no way I would make it on the Duece! Street Rod's currently in surgery! It's getting a ZX10 Fiberglas tail installed!
Did I mention I'd be up for taking the 14.
Yea , I think it's safe to say Dubious wont be there.
Sometime in the next few weeks if you're game...we'll wait for some great weather and get the 14's together...my wife fuck's off for vacation with my daughter on the 15th for 10 days...I'm good anytime thereafter that! I can be in LG by 11 AM easy on the weekend...have some great roads there to play on! Got a few other sportbikers that'll join us...some Busa's K5's etc...will be a blast!
Agreed on Dubious -- he won't be there :P
____________
FYYFF!!!
|
dubious
Needs a life
Needs more time to ride!
Posts: 8442
|
posted August 09, 2006 09:15 PM
____________
natural selection.....
destiny will overcome intervention.
Some are not worthy of the effort.
|
dubious
Needs a life
Needs more time to ride!
Posts: 8442
|
posted August 09, 2006 09:22 PM
yup rub it in you fuckers... LOL
____________
natural selection.....
destiny will overcome intervention.
Some are not worthy of the effort.
|
|
|
HOME
NEW TOPIC