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posted August 01, 2006 05:56 PM
SUPERBIKES! What gives with this show?
Well, just watched the latest episode of "SUPERBIKES" . Was under the inpression that they were gonna feature the trackday at Poconos. Got about 3 min. of 1 second chops. The Lombardi Bros. were the only "Quality Clips" of the show.What a disgrace to real riding. They portrayed N.Y. sport riders as a bunch of city trolling,slow riding "stunters". So "NOT" what I believe real Superbikes are about. Can't stand being misrepresented! I feel a little stupid telling people to tune in to this program thinking it was gonna be a trackday oriented episode.
This episode does not represent the way I ride in any way other than the very limited track footage!!!!
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posted August 01, 2006 06:12 PM
Hollywood  Those guys only want to put on what sells.
It is like the news if it Bleeds it Leads ??
What are ya gunna do??
I vote with my wallet 
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posted August 01, 2006 06:32 PM
The name "Superbikes" is VERY misleading. They are fooling themselves. It should be called "Squids doing stunts on public roads".
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posted August 01, 2006 06:51 PM
"Squidlybikes"
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posted August 01, 2006 07:55 PM
They did an "alright" show on the 14 last week. Then they do this abortion of the term SUPERBIKE! I ashamed to have hung my hat on them. They even e-mailed me to tell me the date of the trackday show! Embarassing!
I'll post my trackday Vid. that SMOKES dis CRAP!!!!!
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posted August 01, 2006 08:03 PM
 Edited By: zx1kr on 1 Aug 2006 21:03
On the UP side. Just got through 5 hours of taping for the SpeedTV series "Unique Whips"
We did some art on one of Will Castro's personal toys & we're setting up for a BIG project that they have.They filmed every minute of the job, did interviews. We'll see how that goes.
I would think that should come off alittle better!
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posted August 01, 2006 11:20 PM
Edited By: BlackMagic14 on 2 Aug 2006 00:22
Some of you guys need to chill out I enjoyed this episode of streetbikes I think it acurately portrayed an area of the Sportbike lifestyle that very often gets ignored... And of course they are going to air what sells if they didnt they would get no advertising bucks and hence NO SHOW... If some of you HATERS would get off your high horse and quit bitchin about squids and braggin about how great yall are, and maybe start showin some support and some love for the speed network and this kinda show maybe we would get some more shows geared towards our lifestyle instead of these lame ass Biker Build off Cookie cutter chopper shows that are all over the place now. And I seem to remeber a couple of weeks ago there was an episode that was all about that real squid Rossi "whatever" at that track school... BLAH how boring I would rather watch paint dry... but I still appreciate what they are trying to do... OK LET THE FLAMING BEGIN,,, HATERS!!!
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posted August 02, 2006 04:03 AM
FYI - More our "Speed":
Speed on Demand is carrying the episode of PINKS where Mike Slowe takes on Jason Miller with their 500hp turbo Busas. They each split the cost of a GSXR1000 because they wanted a bike to ride on the street and they didn't want to lose their $40K AMA Prostar rides.
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posted August 02, 2006 04:44 AM
It's garbage and misrepresenting our passion. Maybe the onroad stunt footage can be used against them?
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posted August 02, 2006 05:32 AM
I love their disclaimer that says that the stunts are being done by "professionals" and under controlled circumstances on "closed" roads. BULLSHIT! They're doing stoppies and wheelies through NYC on that latest episode... Hey BM, how does that represent our hobby in a positive fashion? Please tell me... 
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posted August 02, 2006 07:27 AM
last nite episode sucked!
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posted August 02, 2006 07:49 AM
They promote the shit that will eventually lead to legislation against our sport and the shit that has allready driven insurance companies away from even writing sport bikes.Hey lets practice our stunts on our brand new 10k bikes.Whoops, its all fucked up,no problem,its insured.Has 2 k worth of scratched plastic and squid boy gets new bike.Oh by the way,i hate the show.
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posted August 02, 2006 08:49 AM
What really sucks about the "Superbike lifestyle" (aka squids) is that you can't even buy a decent used sportbike anymore. They've all been beaten up, scratched up, bent & twisted by these squids practicing their stunting.
I'd love to buy a 5 or 6 year old literbike or 600, but all the used ones around here are held together with zip ties and duct tape.
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posted August 02, 2006 09:55 AM
It's a shame, before this show there was no show that had a focus on the sportbike lifestyle of sorts. Two Wheel Tuesday was okay but became more a platform for motorcross than anything else and I simply have no interest whatsoever in that.
With so many sportbike riders ragging on the show (I personally dont think it's that bad, not perfect but not so bad) you've all gotta know that if speed decides to pull it what do you suppose will be put in it's place? Another "better" sportbike show? You've gotta be kidding, they've covered riding clubs, west coast canyon carving, eastern twisties, trackdays, drag racing, urban riding, motorcyle museums, etc. All all they get is flack from the intended target audience who express they will rather look at Mr Rogers than Superbikes!!
If they pull this sukka, dont you know we will either get a Nascar or Cruiser show?
I'll admit that they dont seem to fully get into the meat of every subject they cover and for the most part things seem to skim the surface of things, it's as if the 30-minutes isnt quite enough to flesh things out fully leaving the cup only half full at best but at long last at least we have "A" show! It could be the beginning of others that could possibly come, but if all we do is bictch and rag on it why would they bother?
I can see it now, superbike pulled and another cruiser bike build-off comes to fill it's space sponsored by kuryakin (sp?)
Give it a break or at least offer constructive criticism, not so long ago many of us were complaining that there was nothing for our kind, then came TWT that ended up being the show you had to sit through 20-mins of motorcross to see 5-mins of sportbikes and now we have superbikes with a world renown stunter and a poser as it's hosts, you've gotta know that stunting will be a big part of it and in many areas stunting is HUGE and actually sells more media oriented product than racing off the big screen and network arena. As crap as they were, biker boys and torque made money, the stunting DVD market is massive. Racing has trouble getting traction in the USA, it's highly regarded elsewhere in the world.
I'm rambling already, I have more commentary but I'll stop..but think about it for a bit and do what you think is best...
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posted August 02, 2006 10:02 AM
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It's a shame, before this show there was no show that had a focus on the sportbike lifestyle of sorts. Two Wheel Tuesday was okay but became more a platform for motorcross than anything else and I simply have no interest whatsoever in that.
With so many sportbike riders ragging on the show (I personally dont think it's that bad, not perfect but not so bad) you've all gotta know that if speed decides to pull it what do you suppose will be put in it's place? Another "better" sportbike show? You've gotta be kidding, they've covered riding clubs, west coast canyon carving, eastern twisties, trackdays, drag racing, urban riding, motorcyle museums, etc. All all they get is flack from the intended target audience who express they will rather look at Mr Rogers than Superbikes!!
If they pull this sukka, dont you know we will either get a Nascar or Cruiser show?
I'll admit that they dont seem to fully get into the meat of every subject they cover and for the most part things seem to skim the surface of things, it's as if the 30-minutes isnt quite enough to flesh things out fully leaving the cup only half full at best but at long last at least we have "A" show! It could be the beginning of others that could possibly come, but if all we do is bictch and rag on it why would they bother?
I can see it now, superbike pulled and another cruiser bike build-off comes to fill it's space sponsored by kuryakin (sp?)
Give it a break or at least offer constructive criticism, not so long ago many of us were complaining that there was nothing for our kind, then came TWT that ended up being the show you had to sit through 20-mins of motorcross to see 5-mins of sportbikes and now we have superbikes with a world renown stunter and a poser as it's hosts, you've gotta know that stunting will be a big part of it and in many areas stunting is HUGE and actually sells more media oriented product than racing off the big screen and network arena. As crap as they were, biker boys and torque made money, the stunting DVD market is massive. Racing has trouble getting traction in the USA, it's highly regarded elsewhere in the world.
I'm rambling already, I have more commentary but I'll stop..but think about it for a bit and do what you think is best...
i am going to watch NOPI TUNERVISION, it has a lot of cute girls with bikini in it. :P :P
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posted August 02, 2006 11:55 AM
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What really sucks about the "Superbike lifestyle" (aka squids) is that you can't even buy a decent used sportbike anymore. They've all been beaten up, scratched up, bent & twisted by these squids practicing their stunting.
I'd love to buy a 5 or 6 year old literbike or 600, but all the used ones around here are held together with zip ties and duct tape.
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posted August 02, 2006 12:01 PM
This is a typical show of the specialty networks... Anyone with a Video camera and some editting software can tape stuff, and sell it.
The quality of everything on that show was disappointing.
I actually set up the PVR to grab it... I have now cancelled future dates. 
As for this type of "Sport" having a huge following elsewhere in the World... Mis-information and squid crap like that led to Speed limitations on Bikes, H.P. restrictions, and insane insurance rates....
Let's see Road Racing 
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posted August 02, 2006 12:25 PM
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I'm rambling already, I have more commentary but I'll stop..but think about it for a bit and do what you think is best...
I agree with your points, and I'd offer constructive criticism if they were asking, but they're not. We'll take what we can get, but I'm still holding out hope that one of these days we'll get something like "Keith Code Television" instead of "Superbikes" in it's current form.
I still record it, and I skip through the wheelies and stoppies looking for useful video, but some episodes have none. The commercials are ok sometimes, and I even slow down to watch them - at least it gives companies marketing sportbike goods a place to run their ads on a weekday.
Oh - Does anyone remember the episode a week or two ago (the Deals Gap episode)where they installed a nitrous kit on an R6? They were acting like they were going to show someone (quickly) how to install nitrous, but all they did was mount the bottle and the activation switch! Hello!?!? How about wiring and plumbing? I guess all you need for nitrous to make your bike go faster is a little bottle and a switch by your throttle thumb... what a joke.
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posted August 02, 2006 01:24 PM
If they'd just get rid of Britton entirely and make sure that stunts on public roads were excised from the show in editing... It would be a good show. But as it is, the show is barely more than a personal showoff place for Britton's ego.
At least I rarely see people riding on that show without a helmet... one twit on a busa was helmetless this last episode, but it's rare at least.
 
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posted August 02, 2006 05:21 PM
The show is showing a portion of the the sportbike scene, however sad and pathetic it is. squids,stunters,whatever you call em are the most visible part of the sportbike world, and the portion that is going to get johnny law to drop the iron fist on us. I hope the show goes off the air soon, real soon!
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posted August 02, 2006 05:23 PM
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If they'd just get rid of Britton entirely and make sure that stunts on public roads were excised from the show in editing... It would be a good show. But as it is, the show is barely more than a personal showoff place for Britton's ego.
At least I rarely see people riding on that show without a helmet... one twit on a busa was helmetless this last episode, but it's rare at least.
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posted August 02, 2006 05:23 PM
Is it just me or would a show that was informative,say,one episode doing tire tests,the next on set up,the next on riding techniques.How about getting some real riders and doing shootouts with the new bikes like the rags do.Granted i do not ride with stunt boys and really dont know many,but everybody i talk to thinks the same thing about the current format.Some of the stuff is cool,but that chalk line shit and the stunting turns me off.I was in a local shop today and every tv in the place was showing stunt shit and i asked the manager if he thought that was good selling tool.He gave me one of those 'what do you mean' looks and i asked him, if a parent and little Johnny come walking in and Mom or Dad see's that,do you really think that is going to spur them to buy him a bike.He just shrugged his shoulders and said he never really thought about it.Its kinda like showing Behind the Green Door at a prom dress shop
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posted August 02, 2006 05:27 PM
Well said!
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posted August 02, 2006 08:59 PM
You guys are such babies I would rather have a lame bike show then no bike show... and as for the riding scene where I live it is all Parkin Lot pimpers (like most of yall) Stunt wannabees and Dragracers and trust me those of you that drag race on the street (I DO) are causing us just as much flack from johnny law and the insurance companies as any stunter is it just gets to me when people really trully believe that they have a legitimate argument to tell other people how to ride their bikes If i choose to break the law unless you are a cop actively pursuing me then it is none of your business and if you say Oh you are causing my insurance rates to go up, that is bogus too because insurance rates are quoted by Zip code so unless you live in Pine Bluff Arkansas I aint hurtin you
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posted August 02, 2006 10:37 PM
Hey Black Magic... I come from an area where everyone wants to watch the Biker Build Off and Chopper shows that you mention in your previous post... my point is that you want to watch what you like and everyone else wants to watch what they like. The problem is that though what some have suggested may be boring... it is not promoting a negative view of sport bikes. I believe that the TV programming of stunts and 'some' of what I believe to be irresponsible riding is not only bad 'press' but it is creating more people that don't respect motorcycles to jump on the band wagon. It also does not show the consequences of this kind of riding... (loss of license... injury... or death) It reminds me of a video that I saw about bullet proof vests... They had video of people getting shot, wearing the vest, to show how the vest worked etc... How many people that were either not mentally stable, or not quite old enough to understand, thought that someone could get shot and not get hurt? Or to try it themselves... That video shouldn't be available to the general public. Now if someone wants to buy it... they had better realize the importance of what is in the video. How many more people are going to try the stunts they see? That is my point. You can buy stunt videos... and crashes etc... (you can also buy porn... but it is not available to the general public) I don't think this show should be on TV every week for people to glamorize it. Don't promote something that is such a negative side to our sport. I don't think anyone cares if it is shown here and there.. (I am not talking the porn now haha) but include the positives of motorcycles.. Not just drag racing in the streets, or Hell's Angels, or stunts... show technical aspects... show benifit rides etc... I will not tell you what to do or what not to do... but I will ask that you realize that some of what you do does affect how people look at me, (or 'us'). Find a place where your stunt riding will only cause those involved to be injured or killed.. Don't do it on public streets. It is not your right.... it is against the law... and it is dangerous. I personally don't race... I have kids at home that I want to teach how to be responsible and respectful. There are places and times to do it if that is what you want. I am not a stunt wannabee as you call me.. and I am not a Parkin Lot Pimper. I put on a lot of miles... and I have no one that I want to, or need to impress. I do have stunt videos... and I think it is incredible what can be done... but to the NASCAR crowd, or the Chopper crowd that goes to Speed to see their viewing is only seeing one side of what sport bikes are... and I believe it is the bad side. Maybe it should be called Extreme Bikes... maybe then the catagory would narrow enough that people would not put sport bikes in the same catagory. Lastly... I do not live in Pine Bluff, Ark... but I am sure that there are people there that have sport bikes that think you are a jerk. You represent them whether you like it or not. I am a cop.. and what I do and say does have an affect on what people think of cops.. good or bad. So do what you want... but I ask that you don't do it in public where others are at risk. I do understand your point... and I believe there is some validity to it... but I hope that you see my point. Be safe.... and enjoy...
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