EASY
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posted July 18, 2006 03:54 AM
Dynojet Quick Shift
In my view, the very best in clutchless shifting. Easy on the drivetrain and millsecond quick.
I have a system that I took off my old Hayabusa and adapted it to my 14---with the help of a softwear download from Dynojet.
WOW---at high rpm's, you just touch the shifter and the only way you can tell you shifted is the sound from the motor.
I am suprised none of you guys have done this yet---or maybe you have and want to suprise the next victim.
   
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TeamSpeed
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posted July 18, 2006 05:48 AM
How much did you have to modify the linkage for the sensor from the busa setup? They don't list a 14 set yet, so if we had a different model's linkage to start with and list of mods, it would be helpful.
I wonder how different the 10R model for 06 is from the 14 setup. I would expect that it would work pretty easily on the 14. This looks great, thanks for the heads up, definitely something I will buy when I get the usb PC.
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posted July 18, 2006 05:53 AM
 Edited By: tslewisz on 18 Jul 2006 06:53
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...I am suprised none of you guys have done this yet...
I did it weeks ago...even posted this pic:
It's a unit from a Busa, the linkage just had to be shortened a bit.
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posted July 18, 2006 05:55 AM
I'm having an issue with mine in that occasionally it cuts the ignition during "normal" (low RPM) shifts. Get any of that, EASY?
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posted July 18, 2006 06:42 AM
Not yet, but I did have that problem on the Busa. So far with the 14 it works like a charm. Be sure to set your minimum rpm on up there. I have mine at 7000 and, like I said it works perfact. As you can see from the picture, you do not need any linkage---I attached mine to the shift lever the way the picture indicates but the other end I angled back and attached it right by the swing arm bolt.
Musta missed your posting tslewisz----but as I said, its the only way to go.
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smokinZX14
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posted July 18, 2006 06:47 AM
Looks like i'm going with that shifter set up ....Looks and sounds like the hot set up... 
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posted July 18, 2006 06:56 AM
Tslewisz-----when I was having that problem with the busa cutting out after you make a normal shift, I called Dynojet and they told me that they had never heard of that happing. I sent the pc and the quick shifter back to Dynojet and they stated they put it on their test Hayabusa and never had a problem. Bottom line, they sent the whole thing back to me--I put it on the Busa and the cut-out still occured. Here's the real mystery----that quick shifter is the one I put on the 14 and it works perfact. Got me----little electrical gremlin.
Smoking, since you are the racer, you would be suprised how easy and fast it is to shift---truely like an automatic. Let us know if your times drop---
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posted July 18, 2006 07:10 AM
Thanks. Dunno what to do. It's pretty annoying sometimes!
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posted July 18, 2006 07:35 AM
I just found out something------I friend of mine has been over and we are putting one on his new Gixxer 1000. If the upshift to 2nd and above uses all the travel in the rod, the cut out will occur. We remounted the unit at a greater angle so only the middle part of the travel was used and volla---the cut out went away. It seems that on an upshift, if the rod bottoms (or in this case up) it will trigger a cut out. Whatta ya know---it was my fault all along. I am not going to tell Dynojet that. Hope this helps----good luck.
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posted July 18, 2006 07:35 AM
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Tslewisz-----when I was having that problem with the busa cutting out after you make a normal shift, I called Dynojet and they told me that they had never heard of that happing. I sent the pc and the quick shifter back to Dynojet and they stated they put it on their test Hayabusa and never had a problem. Bottom line, they sent the whole thing back to me--I put it on the Busa and the cut-out still occured. Here's the real mystery----that quick shifter is the one I put on the 14 and it works perfact. Got me----little electrical gremlin.
Smoking, since you are the racer, you would be suprised how easy and fast it is to shift---truely like an automatic. Let us know if your times drop---
I bet it will help me some... I have the hardest time speed shifting my zx14 ... I have an air shifter on my other bike and it has made me a bit lazy shifting without it ..lol...
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tslewisz
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posted July 18, 2006 08:57 AM
Thanks EASY! Wonder why it happens below my specified RPM?
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posted July 18, 2006 09:07 AM
Dont' know---but that is exacatly what my Busa and now this little Gixxer did. It was cutting out at any rpm right after the shift. Them little Gixxers are kinda cute. I am thinking of buying one and putting it on my key chain. Yuk, yuk, yuk.
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posted July 18, 2006 12:30 PM
I'm a little confused. I've went to there site and done some research. With the push button installed, alls I have to do is push the button, and the bike upshifts?? Like an airshifter?
It says on the site that if you use the push button, you have to lightly load the clutch lever, or shift lever? before pushing the button to make it shift.
I need something that when I push the button, the bike shifts, while my feet are still dragging behind the bike. I'm about one day away from buying an air-shifter. I use the bike strictly for drag racing. Any advise?
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posted July 18, 2006 12:50 PM
Air shifter---the Dynojet push button take very close co-ordination between the finger and the foot. You have to make the shift at the same time as you push the buttton. All the buttton does is kill the engine for a programmed period of time.
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posted July 18, 2006 12:51 PM
u need an air shifter then.
all DJ shifters interupt power, they do not move the lever for you.
Pingle sells electric soleniod shifters but the mechanism is big.
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iflyphi
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posted July 18, 2006 01:06 PM
Ok, thanks
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posted July 18, 2006 06:57 PM
Dynojet quick shifter
I have used the button shifter option from Dynojet and it works as well as the much more expensive shift rod options. All you have to do is pre load the shift lever under power and punch the button. I ordered one for my ZX-14 and will install it when the power commander and pipe arrive from Brock.
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posted July 18, 2006 07:07 PM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 18 Jul 2006 20:08
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I'm a little confused. I've went to there site and done some research. With the push button installed, alls I have to do is push the button, and the bike upshifts?? Like an airshifter?
It says on the site that if you use the push button, you have to lightly load the clutch lever, or shift lever? before pushing the button to make it shift.
I need something that when I push the button, the bike shifts, while my feet are still dragging behind the bike. I'm about one day away from buying an air-shifter. I use the bike strictly for drag racing. Any advise?
If you want to drag you feet ( bad thing to do for good MPH) You need Muzzy air shifter then .... I have see so many guys and gals drag there feet and i allway ask why??? Can't you guys feel the wind blowing on your legs???That's MPH you are killing my friends... Pick your feet up and tuck them tight to the tank....
Just a story here> friend of mine has the same bike with the same mods, he also weighs the same as me ..... I run 116 and he runs 113 mph in the 1/8 ...He could not understand why my bike MPH better than his ... I told him pick up your feet .....He looked at me funny and said why ...I told him just try it....He did and run 115 .... Need i say more....
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posted July 18, 2006 07:14 PM
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...I am suprised none of you guys have done this yet...
I did it weeks ago...even posted this pic:
It's a unit from a Busa, the linkage just had to be shortened a bit.
So you drilled right into the casing?
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posted July 18, 2006 10:36 PM
looks like it.
Its just the countershaft cover, no big deal, as long as the bolt does not portrude far enough to catch the chain.
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posted July 19, 2006 04:04 AM
Its only a 6mm hole----I believe the travel of the rod is most critical. It should only move a small amount between the green light and the red light. I think setups with a long travel rod are experiancing cut-outs at any rpm after a normal shift. Mine does not do that, but it did on my Busa. I mounted the rod top at the 11:00 position right above the swing arm bolt. That is a very meaty area and a small hole will not hurt. I used a nut on the end so I could lock the mounting without drilling the hole very much. The bottom I mounted in the same position as the picture. I think it would be hard to improve on the shift with anything. A light tap of the shift lever makes the shift and it feels seemless.
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posted July 19, 2006 06:38 AM
Edited By: TeamSpeed on 19 Jul 2006 08:00
So what software changes were required? What was involved in getting this to work on the ZX14 PC3? I am about to order the PC and the Quick Shift/Busa kit, but wanted to make sure I have everything lined up for this.
Also, the lowest price I have found thus far is 260 for the PC3 USB and 254 for the Quick Shift. Seems pretty fair, and this same place has the Baxley chock for 212, all very decent prices. Schnitz wants $320-ish for the PC3, yowza....
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posted July 19, 2006 07:02 AM
What is your kill time with dynojet quick shifter?
Was there much trial and error to get it right?
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posted July 19, 2006 07:47 AM
I had the pc111usb that I had just purchased from Dynojet directly. I had the quick shift unit from my Hayabusa, so I called dynojet and they e-mailed me the quick shift software---loaded it into the power commander and was good to go.
The factroy kill time is 65 something----that time worked great for me. I always kinda had problems with this on my busa, but the 14 is working like clockwork--WOW. What an easy way to shift and it is so easy on the drivetrain.
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posted July 19, 2006 09:52 AM
Wow, found a group purchase going on at sportbikes.net for the Quick Shifter at $214... Guess I will be placing an order today. Still worried about modifying the linkage and drilling holes into frame/sprocket cover, but it will be worth it.
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