2toGo
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posted July 12, 2006 03:41 PM
 Edited By: 2toGo on 12 Jul 2006 16:42
Muzzy-Muzzle?
Despite what other members say about the Muzzy system I bought 2 of them. I installed them last night and there is no back pressure!! Only took 45 minutes to install it on my bike and 30 minutes on my wife's bike. Practice makes perfect. I purchased the pcIII"s with the pipes, that only made sence with me. I owned a repair facility for 15 years. That we also specialized in Snowmobile, Personal watercraft and Motorcycle repair. Mainly Hi-perf. I have the knack of making things go fast and staying together!! I did all the toy stuff myself. My employees did the auto repair. When I would make someones sled or bike or sea-doo fast and they would go out and rip there buddy a new ass, there buddy would come in and want to know what I did to make there friends machine performe the way it does. My standard reply was if you want to make your toy fast bring it in and I can do the same to it for the same amount of money. If you just want me to tell you what I did, your SOL. Sometimes I was called an ass but so what I know what I did was good, and so did they. Why should I give that away for free. I think Muzzy is the same way, If you want to see there map It will be installed in the PCIII when you recieve it, down load it and look. Tonite I will install the pcIII's and am still going to have it dynoed. Just for my own piece of mind. And if Muzzy's isn't the best why does so many others compare there stuff to Muzzy's? Because it is the best !! Hundreds of Race victory's don't lie !
  
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countersteer
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posted July 12, 2006 04:04 PM
youre a snap-on dealer eh???
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2toGo
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posted July 12, 2006 06:10 PM
Yes I am. Ranked #61 out of 380 dealers thru the Detroit Branch. Not bad for only my 2nd year in my route.
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vegasdude
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posted July 12, 2006 09:23 PM
If you buy a pipe from MU$$Y they should give you the damn map. It's bullshit that you have to buy the PC3 from them too.................I don't care what anyone says!!!!1!
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vegasdude
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posted July 12, 2006 09:25 PM
Because of MU$$Y's way of doing business, I will NEVER buy one thing from them and I'll tell my friends the same thing. I hope they are reading this. And remember folkes the customer is always right!!!
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vegasdude
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posted July 12, 2006 09:26 PM
And MU$$Y's the best................the design of this pipe is almost a dupe of the stock system..............I smell B.S. here..................
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2toGo
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posted July 13, 2006 04:01 AM
Edited By: 2toGo on 13 Jul 2006 05:05
Opinion's are like belly button's we all have one. But like I said Race Win's speak louder than words!! And its not even close to the stock pipe. It is a 4 into 2 into 1. The stock is a 4 into 1. No comparison at all. And I'm not cutting down anybody else's pipe , I'm just stating my opinion. Nothing more nothing less !!
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zxlnt
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posted July 13, 2006 01:47 PM
What stock exhaust is a 4-1?? the ZX14 sure isn't...
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RobMuzzy
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posted July 13, 2006 02:13 PM
vegasdude- You are living proof that it is not possible to make everybody happy. Have you read my post? If you did, are you telling me that you e mailed for a map and did not get it? Since you are not a customer and have chosen to crusade against us, you would be the most likely person not to get a map from us. SO, I CHALLENGE YOU TO E MAIL MUZZYS AND REQUEST A MAP, ANY MAP THAT WE HAVE. I am positive you will receive it just like everyone else has. Of course if you don't your previous posts will actually be true and shame on us. The real question is will you be man enough to admit it if you do get the map.
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jnybbad
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posted July 13, 2006 02:13 PM
I e-mailed Muzzy and they gave me the map without question.
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iflyphi
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posted July 13, 2006 02:14 PM
What we need here is somebody on a ZX14 with a Muzzle 4 into 1, and somebody in the lane next to him with a Brock/Hindle and see who wins. I already know the Hindle will win. Hp number don't like, and Brocks system is getting about 10 more hp than the Muzzle. I have the Muzzle, and it is the exact same Id and Od of the stock system. You do gain hp, no doubt, and you lose a bunch of weight, but there are better systems out there. Muzzle's are what they are. Cheap. You get what you pay for.
Rob has "outsourced" way too much lately, and this has cause many delays in his abilities to produce the parts. When he made everything "in-house" it was great. Not anymore.
And yes, I know what I'm talking about as I've known Rob personally for about 15 years, and a couple of good friends work there.
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RobMuzzy
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posted July 13, 2006 02:21 PM
iflyphi-Since we are such good friends, use your real name. You are on!!! what ever your name good buddy.
We can also do a dyno back to back. So if you are as big a man as your mouth lets get this going.
Rob Muzzy
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2toGo
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posted July 13, 2006 02:36 PM
Edited By: 2toGo on 13 Jul 2006 15:38
My bad, 4 into one into two. Is the stock pipe.
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Bronze Star Racing
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posted July 13, 2006 02:38 PM
Are we talking stock motor Pipe and box Muzzy Versus stock motor Pipe and Box Brocks? Personally I think both are great tuners, and no one with the exception Gadson Slowe Haskovec Is going to be able to get the full effect of either. Personally I look for availability and kindness on the phone. and a tune that is in the ball park, and I got all of that
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iflyphi
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posted July 13, 2006 02:46 PM
I wish to apologize to Rob Muzzy. The post above did not originate from me, Paul. I know who made the post, under my nick name, and it won't happen again, as I have changed my password, and spoken to the party involve.
I currently have the MuzzY piple on my bike, and am happy enough with it. As far as the power it makes compared to other pipes, I have no clue. The pipe that I got from Rob was first rate. I got the 4 into 1 with the s/s muffler. I had heard people early on say how cheaply they were made, and how lousy the finish was. When I opened the box the pipe and headers were first class. The muffler is a mirror finish, and all the welds are top notch.
For the record, I have never met Rob, nor do I, Paul, claim to know him. However, I have spoken to him on the phone, and he appears ready to answer any an all question I had about his products. What I'm saying is, he stands by what he sells. For the money, you can't beat his system.
If ANY of you have a problem with your MuzzY system, or a product made by him, call, and get him on the phone. The guy puts his pants on just like everybody else, and he'll answer all your questions.
I have never "bashed" Rob, or his product. I had(past tense), somebody else that had access to my Iflyphi account to check on some messages for me, and it appears that this person took it upon themselves to launch a personal attack on Muzzy.
Rob, it was good to finally talk to you in person. I hope that airshifter kit is ready by the middle of next week. Make sure Dave calls me the minute it's ready to be shipped.
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zxlnt
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posted July 13, 2006 02:59 PM
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I e-mailed Muzzy and they gave me the map without question.
When did you email? After all this started or a week or two ago. I am sure people are getting maps now that Rob has spoken. Probably not before though....
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RobMuzzy
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posted July 13, 2006 03:35 PM
Pro- To the best of my knowledge it has been that way for years.
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iflyphi
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posted July 13, 2006 03:49 PM
Rob, is it true that you are going to develop, or already have developed a match switching "box" for guys that have the PC and want to be able to push a button and switch to another map "on the fly'??
This would be great for the like of a dryshot of nitrous. You could have the biked mapped for the pipe, then make a seperate map for when you hit the button. No more pushing buttons twice on the PC to richen up the mixture.
Also would like to see some clutch mod kits for those of us who strictly drag race there bike, and a billet oil pan would be nice for the ground clearance.
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iflyphi
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posted July 13, 2006 03:53 PM
One more thing; oops, I guess this would be the third question but here goes; What the heck is the big difference between the powercommanders that were "pinned" to work with the ZX14, i.e., the ZX10r powercommanders, and the REAL ZX14 powercommanders that dynojet is coming out with??
I have a "pinned" unit because basically I have short attention deficit disorder. I don't like to wait for anything.
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zxboy
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posted July 13, 2006 03:59 PM
I requested a map from Muzzy about a year back for their sidewinder on a ZX12 and they sent me one no problem....... And I didn't even buy the pipe direct from them.
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speedgene
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posted July 13, 2006 04:22 PM
I just called requesting a map of New Jersey, and...........Click! Let me try again. Maybe my cell call dropped?
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osti33
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posted July 13, 2006 05:53 PM
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I requested a map from Muzzy about a year back for their sidewinder on a ZX12 and they sent me one no problem....... And I didn't even buy the pipe direct from them.
Me too. I've gotten a bunch of maps over the years from them for my many different motor configurations. NEVER a problem.
I have had great luck with their customer service as well.
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fastestbusaaround
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posted July 13, 2006 06:19 PM
Edited By: fastestbusaaround on 13 Jul 2006 19:28
Rob...not trying to bash or flame you, but 2 weeks ago I participated in a 3-way call and we spoke to a fellow by the name of Curt Dorn. My buddy (another member of this board) mentioned to him that he was ready to purchase a full system and needed a map for the PC3 he had. Curt's response was that Muzzy will only supply the PC3 loaded with a map and that you could not get a map from Muzzy any other way. Take it for what it's worth; I have no reason to lie. I have purchased product from you recently and was happy with the purchase, but my buddy just decided that he would purchase his exhaust elsewhere after the answer he got from Curt...or Kurt (I'm not sure which way he spells it). I heard the entire conversation and I don't blame him, because he simply wasn't interested in having the bike Dyno'd at this time; he only wanted an exhaust and map. I had already purchased a system from Brock with PC3's for both of us, so he only needed a map from you, not the PC3. I was quite surprised hearing about Muzzy's "policy" during that conversation.
Oh...and I think one of the other issues here is that when you guys were 1st to market with the ZX14 sliders, your $189.00 price was perceived as gouging...and members were somewhat upset here, to say the least. We all thought it was a bit strange when the price dropped almost to half a few weeks later. I think that may have contributed to some of the bashing here. Again, Im not out to bash you...just letting you know that there is truth to what has been said here. The Internet can be a great place, or your worst enemy on some days...
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CrotchRocket
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posted July 13, 2006 06:29 PM
I see this entertainment is coming to an end, Rob has straightend this nonsense out as far as Im concerned...I guess I wont need another bag of  It's a good thing 'cause this is the second thread about this stuff 
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fastestbusaaround
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posted July 13, 2006 06:33 PM
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Rob, is it true that you are going to develop, or already have developed a match switching "box" for guys that have the PC and want to be able to push a button and switch to another map "on the fly'??
This would be great for the like of a dryshot of nitrous. You could have the biked mapped for the pipe, then make a seperate map for when you hit the button. No more pushing buttons twice on the PC to richen up the mixture.
That would be Dynojet.
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