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posted July 17, 2006 06:16 AM
Permatex lists the red as "high strength" rather than "medum strength" (blue)..so I thought it was the right replacement for the factory threadlocker...I guess i'm not going to be replacing the sliders anytime soon 
FTS...from my experience with the blue in the past, the factory bolts were much tighter than anything I've used blue theardlock on before...at least on my bike, don't know about others here...it wasn't an SOB, but it was tight on the whole of the red part.
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posted July 17, 2006 06:22 AM
So if your bike actually slid along the road, how much protection would these actually provide? Are they more for preventing the plastic from cracking everywhere or also to prevent grazing of the plastic? I guess the contact points would now be the handlebar ends, exhaust, mirror, footpegs and now the sliders.
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posted July 17, 2006 06:58 AM
 Edited By: zerMATT on 17 Jul 2006 07:59
Frame sliders help to prevent contact with the frame and the top-end of the engine a bit. They can also prevent you from having to replace your upper faring pieces in many cases, as well as prevent the bike from rolling over a little more and damaging the tank. It will also reduce the amount of damage done to your side faring, so that in a lower-speed slid, you may be able to use "plastic weld" and putty to repair some of the faring rather than purchasing all new. They can also help to keep the bike from rolling over further onto your bar ends and levers - could also prevent some bending of your clip-ons or triple tree.
They are no gaurantee that you will reduce damage, but in many cases, they will save you some money in the long-run. There are lots of "stunt" bikes around here and those guys swear by them. Most of their "get offs" are on straight roads and involve long slides. Adding sliders are like wearing a good set of leathers... they will help to prevent more major damage while sliding down the road, but all bets are off when you hit an immovable object.
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posted July 17, 2006 07:21 AM
Guess I was thinking along those lines. Good to know, thanks. I guess the final question I have for myself is that "is $100 now going to possibly prevent more than $100 in repairs later", and the answer certainly seems "absolutely".
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posted July 17, 2006 08:09 AM
Edited By: zerMATT on 17 Jul 2006 09:14
Yeah, I would think so. Even if it only stops the a George Foreman grill and a bar-end from getting damaged... that's gotta be nearly $100 saved. Add a clutch or brake lever and the upper faring and your savings starts going up dramatically.
Most of the bike's weight is low in the frame, so the slider could easily become the object that keeps the bike from being totally horizontal while sliding down the road... that's where big savings comes in. Without a slider, you're easily up on a bar-end and upper faring, not to mention possibly the frame or tank if it gets bad.
My only concern is the clutch or stator cover. I hope someone comes up with a lower peg to help protect those engine parts some day. A friend of mine slid his ZX-9R down the road for a couple hundred feet last fall. We thought the engine damage was limited to the stator cover, but discovered that the flywheel was also cracked and scraped down a little. Replacing that flywheel added a couple hundred to his repair bill...
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posted July 17, 2006 09:11 AM
My Stator cover got dinged when my FJR just tipped over with the bigass Moko sliders, but no plastic damage...my Busa dropped in a corner at 35 and the stator cover ground through and oil pissed out...faring got whacked as did the mirrors and bar ends/lever...but the frame was fine...I think the damage was minimized with them on the Busa.
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posted July 17, 2006 02:34 PM
Slid my FZ1 once without sliders, hitting the ground at around 60 mph. Bike slid on the left side. Ground the engine crank case cover almost all the way through, handlebars slammed into the gas tank and put in a big dent, bar ends and clutch lever got ground badly. Broke my shifter. I was 60 miles from the house. Fortunately I was able to limp back home. I bought the parts and rebuilt myself. Cost me $2500 for the parts, with a 15% discount from my dealer. Went out and gots some sliders. Just studying the geometry it would have prevented damage to my crank case cover, handlebars most likely would not have hit the gas tank, and my shift lever most likely would have survived. I've already got the Muzzy sliders for my 14 on backorder.
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posted August 10, 2009 10:54 PM
Frame Slider installation Stock Bolts
I can tseem to break the stock bolts loose to install the frame sliders.. Any thoughts?
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posted August 10, 2009 11:15 PM
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I can tseem to break the stock bolts loose to install the frame sliders.. Any thoughts?
Long handle Breaker bar and of course proper size socket. 
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posted August 10, 2009 11:32 PM
Its a hex bolt so I was a little nervouse about applying to much pressure! And Im using t-bar hex wrench. I hope the handle doesnt break! Thanks for the advise I appreciate it. Ill try it tomorrow see how it goes.
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posted August 11, 2009 12:10 PM
Can't view the pic...
Please, repost it.
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posted August 11, 2009 12:15 PM
It was only first posted in jul. of 06. lol
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posted August 11, 2009 12:40 PM
Wonder howTooHype came around this thread...
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