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posted June 30, 2006 04:08 AM
How is the 14 when it comes to wheelies? I know some of you guys like to wheelie. So how is the 14 when it comes to hoisting mingers? Do you have to coax a wheelie out of it, or will it power up and suprise you at times?
2nd and 3rd gear clutch wheelies?
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posted June 30, 2006 04:33 AM
I'm still breaking in and can't go past 6000 rpm. No wheelies here. Front end seems firmly planted.
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posted June 30, 2006 05:09 AM
Well, I guess that's good from a drag launch standpoint. But bad from a hooliganistic point of view.
I sold my 12R a couple weeks ago, and plan to get a replacement for it in the future. The earliest would be next spring, so I've got time to really look into what I eventually buy. Honestly I think the 14 is an ugly sumbiatch, no offense to anyone, but for a guy my size it's got to be on the list of potential bikes. With aftermarket goodies, and owner's creativity, I'm sure the 14 will start to look better to me.
For my style of riding a liter bike would be better suited, but again, at 6"4" and 245lbs. w/o gear I'd look like a gorilla on a minibike.
Any hooligans out there with a 14 that have had a 12R? Key word is hooligan.
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posted June 30, 2006 05:16 AM
quote:It's a long bike. You figure it out...
DUH bitch .........
So was the ZX-11, but I could wheelie it. But it wasn't as good on the back wheel as the 12R, not even close. With the power and torque the 14 has I am just wondering what it's like. Some people can't wheelie a 12R, so they'd probably really have trouble with a 14. Just trying to get an idea is all. Mainly wondering if I'd be happy on one, because if it won't wheelie I don't want it.
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posted June 30, 2006 05:26 AM
Yea you can wheelie easy with it. Power in 1st. Ive speed shifted in 2nd and its popped up. Mind you this was unintentional. Being from your stand point yes it will come up easy. With the 2nd butterflies out im sure it would come up even faster with the extra torque.
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posted June 30, 2006 05:57 AM
with my 1361 bike, I could pull a wheelie from a stop sign / light and never break the speed limit. Now that's torque. ____________
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posted June 30, 2006 08:14 AM
Comeon Rick, shit...If you can hang good wheelies for blocks or a couple gears then, you can wheelie anything
Just buy the 14 and start doing BLOCKS...By the way, HOW MANY BLOCKS YA DOIN???...A quote by the famous Wink1100...You remember him Rick, I played his video at DG1 ____________ Jason Miller StreetBike Seminars
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posted June 30, 2006 08:31 AM
quote:Comeon Rick, shit...If you can hang good wheelies for blocks or a couple gears then, you can wheelie anything
Just buy the 14 and start doing BLOCKS...By the way, HOW MANY BLOCKS YA DOIN???...A quote by the famous Wink1100...You remember him Rick, I played his video at DG1
IF I can hang good wheelies!?!?!?!?!?! Why I oughta.................
You damned well know I remember HOW MANY BLOCKS YOU DOIN????? It just so happens that a homeboy of mine hooked me up with that video a few years back.
I don't doubt for one second my ability to wheelie the 14, just wondering how much effort it took, and what the bike feels like on one wheel. For its' size, the 12R was remarkably fun to wheelie IMHO. But compared to the Gixxer 1ks I've had the pleasure of riding wheelies on, it paled in comparison. Actually Bart's 7R swingarm equiped 12R was the most fun bike on a wheelie I've ever rode. Just felt great, and super easy to modulate and keep on the balance point.
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posted June 30, 2006 12:23 PM
Snap the throttle in 1st gear rolling about 15mph front end comes about a 1 - 1 1/2 ft off the pavement, roll into the throttle (slowly) keep it going for as long as you want. Slip it into second and keep on going. Awsome to see and do !!
posted June 30, 2006 01:36 PM
At 6200 rpm in first...just roll the throttle..it brings it straight up. The nice thing is it has so much power that you dont even need to keep it at the balance point. You can get on and off the throttle and it will let the tire come all the way down and then throw it right to the top again...and if you dont bring it quite to the balance point...you can grab second fairly hard and it wil still keep the tire still pulled all the way up to just before the balance point and just keep pulling. Then grab third hard and if you are good with your throttle and clutch shifting it to third it will still keep it at about the same height. The stunt guys in town say it looks scary though...because by third..this thing is freakin movin out on one wheel. (they are used to those low speed foot on the rear brake wheelies). As for being a long bike...57.5 inches isnt all that long for a big bore bike. (maybe long next to a little r6 or something) Heck its only 1 inch longer than my old first generation ZX-6. After I put the pipe on it (Brocks Gen 3 system) It made it more fun to wheelie though as it will just snap up now as opposed to have the 1.5 foot lazy lift part right when the wheelie first startes. Hope this helps with your question.
posted June 30, 2006 03:57 PM
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posted June 30, 2006 06:41 PM
Just got My 14\not a wheelie bike. Im gonna use it for drag. My zx12 would wheelie easier.. My 2005 zx10 wheelied the best. Oh and if you try 2 clutch-up a wheelie the front dampered sprocket clicks like a sumbitch. Feel free 2 ask any more questions.
posted June 30, 2006 08:25 PM
Stock exhaust and stock gearing it wheelies easily in first gear when you get on the power good. Quick stab to second and you can carry it all the way to redline. Its easier to wheelie (controllably) that my 12R. My 1270 is violent in first gear, not so bad in 2nd..
quote: I know some of you guys like to wheelie. So how is the 14 when it comes to hoisting mingers? Do you have to coax a wheelie out of it, or will it power up and suprise you at times?
2nd and 3rd gear clutch wheelies?
We had some wheelie nazi's here...Dorito Lay and TonyTurdlicker...you should ask them...they don't post anymore but I bet they troll here...
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posted July 01, 2006 09:46 AM
I used to have a 2002 ZX12R ,, stands ups in 2nd gear were very easy and throttle response was perfect when it was in the air... Recently I own a 2005 GSXR1000,, totally diff scenario, wheel base is real short, power is critical as in you have to be 98% accurate or youll be rocking it in the air ,,definetly harder to control in the air...
Im sure the ZX14 will be heavy in the air,, but it will be a lil easier to keep up there being it heavy and wheelbase longer.. It also depends on what ur used to,, I got used to the 12 , so its taking me longer to get used to the shorter and power motor of the Gixxer ,,,,,,,, dont be scaredddddddd, practice makes perfect
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