posted June 15, 2006 05:41 PM
Pulled the plates and runs like shit now Alright I got the Hindle full system CF can and power commander with Brocks latest map. Took the secondaries out because several of you said the bike runs great with out a map.. Wrong mine runs like pure shit! And I can tell that it is way to lean in places and to rich in others.. Why is everyone saving it runs better?? I need a map or I"m putting them back in... Map anyone???
quote:Alright I got the Hindle full system CF can and power commander with Brocks latest map. Took the secondaries out because several of you said the bike runs great with out a map.. Wrong mine runs like pure shit! And I can tell that it is way to lean in places and to rich in others.. Why is everyone saving it runs better?? I need a map or I"m putting them back in... Map anyone???
Check your PM's
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Bob
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posted June 15, 2006 06:45 PM
You can always put them back in. I'm heading to a DynoJet this Sat, should give some different results from the Mustang dyno I used last week. My plates are removed, and I'll post the full sheet with the EGA curve.
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posted June 15, 2006 07:04 PM
Edited By: fastestbusaaround on 15 Jun 2006 20:05
Drowland...it's because of your pipes...I'm running stock...you need to add fuel down low...you popping on decel?
You did pull the top plates -- not the bottom right? :P
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posted June 16, 2006 02:29 AM
Fellas wasn't born yesterday.. The map is so bad that I really don't even know where to start to get it right.. Brock said he will have a map but it will proalby be awhile. I will try to use the schnitz map but I don't think it will be much better.. I've gotten pretty good with mapping by the ass theory over the years but I need a baseline map and I'm so far off with brocks map.
posted June 16, 2006 06:08 AM
removing the plates affects the a/f ratio above 6 k negligably,but there is a definite lean out of all throttle settings below that rpm. i have seen a/f ratios pegged at the 18-1 limit with plates removed on stockers! with my hi-flo air filter it is even worse,and a pipe just continues the lean-out. with a/f ratios that lean, driveability is severely compromised. we have also found that the 14 is a typical mass-produced jap bike,with HP figures on stockers varying widely. so far we have seen 8 hp variation. heck,the zx -12 has the worse record for consistency on my dyno,with a variation of 15!!! hp. 143 was the lowest with 158 the best.i have seen most typical jap models with at least a 8 hp variation,but with the majority of skoots clustered around a 2-3 HP "average" area. another thing i have found is that each bike will respond completely different to the same mods done to other skoots.not all bikes will gain the same HP and tork with a certain pipe/filter ,etc.i have lost a few customers to other shops that have happier??!! dynos. one can't and shouldn't be too concerned with HP figures from dynos that u skoot has never been on. as said in previous posts there are just too much variations in dyno numbers.
RACNRAY
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posted June 16, 2006 06:09 AM
oh fuck.. don't listen to me... I'm the last guy to listen to... but adding gas bottom end seems to be a no brainer ...
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posted June 16, 2006 06:36 AM
Yup...no one else does anyway...:P What type of credentials do you have anyway, like do you work for a mag doing testing and shit? Do you have an engineering degree? What exactly qualifies you to write reviews? ____________
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posted June 16, 2006 06:54 AM
At this point, would it be safe to say that since I've installed cans and probably already leaned my bike out a bit from that change, that I should not remove the plates until I go the PC route?
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quote:Hey racnray hows that filter coming out? Did you finish it? Does it flow better than the stocker?
first version done and tested,gains above 6k...i will start 2nd version ??? this r&d is cutting into my ridin time!! the zx-14 filter is on the small side of what it should be,so it'll be worth the purchase of a bmc when they come out with one. my goal is not to market a filter,but to do the r&d and learn about this 14.
RAY
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posted June 16, 2006 08:00 AM
What type of credentials do you have anyway, like do you work for a mag doing testing and shit? Do you have an engineering degree? What exactly qualifies you to write reviews?
is this directed at me?
RACNRAY
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