posted June 15, 2006 01:42 PM
Ivan calls us "low class animals" Quote:Fish,
Everyone will get an impartial test result....... The magazines are testing it and everyone will read about it anyway.
I have been on your site many times over the past few years...
I'm not impressed by a large amount of your members including yourself.
Your board is littered with a lot of trash and just plain low class animals... I don't want any part of people who talk like that and people like you who allow others to talk like that.
Not everyone on your board is bad though.
I don't trust you.... plain and simple.
Like I said before.... If you want to talk about this stuff, call me on the phone and clean up your board, and maybe I'll consider paying you some money for an advertisement.
Until then, quit baiting me !!
Ivan
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I'm not sure where this was originally posted. I got it from ZX14ninja.com. Kinda pissed me off. This is my response:
[quote="iflyphi"]Hey Ivan, I was on the fence for awhile there, but I guess I'm just one of the low life trash types that trolls bikeland.org also. I'm not really offened, it's just that were done. I'm not doing business with someone like you. I've been riding bikes and drag racing seriously for the better part of 25 years and I've seen the likes of guys like you come and go.
There is always better snake oil somewhere else, and whether I need your product or not, is up to me, and I chose not.
But hey, thanks for playing. Don't go away mad, just go away.
As far as low class animals, Ivan, I probably make more in a day than you make all week. I've been a professional helicopter pilot for 18 years, and currently fly a Sikorsky S76 in support of Air-Medical. Can you say Big Money?? Good, I knew you could. Like I said before, don't go away mad, just go away. I have thick skin, but you have insulted everybody here and on bikeland. Go away, and stay away.
posted June 15, 2006 02:11 PM
Low Class Animal..........................I'm so upset...............like an arrow through my heart. Sounds like a 'winning way' to attract customers to say they are 'low class animals'.
I'm in sales, so maybe I should try this on my new potential clients.
posted June 15, 2006 02:13 PM
But I am a low class animal! And damn proud of that fact. ____________
Speed has never killed anyone,
suddenly becoming stationary...
That's what gets you.
posted June 15, 2006 02:16 PM
I just got it. Fish=animal, a low swimming animal, as in fish in the sea.
My bad, I guess that wasn't such a slap in the face after all. Hmmm.
posted June 15, 2006 02:45 PM
Maybe that what Fish's problem is ...he ain't got no class....running around and rubbin his arse on other peoples motorcycles.
posted June 15, 2006 02:53 PM
Edited By: fish_antlers on 15 Jun 2006 16:33
Marketing 101:
or "How I pissed off an Entire Online Community"
by Ivan...
Step 1: Spam every website you can
Step 2: Refuse to actually pay for advertising when people question your Spam
Step 3: Refuse to provide units for testing when readers claim your product doesnt perform
Step 4: Insult and berate owners of publications and members of the Media when they try to mediate
Step 5: Insult your customers
Step 6: Run laughing all the way to the bank
Remember those 6 easy steps and you can be just like him! ____________ What business is it of yours where I'm from, Friendo?
posted June 15, 2006 03:04 PM
Imagine, that low class animal Fish allowing us to talk the way we want. Something's not right, I don't trust you either Fish. You animal.
____________ ''The angle of my dangle is inversely proportional to the heat of my meat''Will Ferrell
posted June 15, 2006 03:12 PM
Well...we were gonna advertise on this site...but since there are only animals here...I think I'll go advertise on www.jerkoffs_performance_blowjobs_and_TREfuckers.com instead...:d
____________
FYYFF!!!
quote:Marketing 101:
or "How I pissed off an Entire Online Community"
by Ivan...
Step 1: Spam every website you can
Step 2: Refuse to actually pay for advertising when people question your Spam
Step 3: Refuse to provide units for testing when readers claim your product doesnt perform
Step 4: Insult and berate owners of publications and members of the Media when they try to mediate
Step 5: Insult your customers
Step 6: Run laughing all the way to the bank
Remember those 6 easy steps and you can be just like him!
I think you left out his "affinity marketing"
I have not read anything positive about Ivan and that is very telling. However, I don't blame him for not sending a "test" unit (see step 3). The owner of a website that is trying to squeeze out ad dollars is far from impartial.
quote:Well...we were gonna advertise on this site...but since there are only animals here...I think I'll go advertise on www.jerkoffs_performance_blowjobs_and_TREfuckers.com instead...:d
Do you mean ZX10.NET? You just described 85% of their members. The other 15% are good guys though and most belong here as well, BUT the 10R is the only bike I ever considered selling because I don't like being grouped in with 90% of the morons that own them.
quote:It's Fish's JOB to fund this site with sponsor dollars. He's doing a damn good job by the way!
ONE last thing............................................FUCK IVAN!!!!! in an animal kind of way
Exactly. Its Fish's job to get ad dollars. It is not Fish's job to conduct impartial product testing and follow up that testing with editorial content. There is nothing wrong with getting advertising dollars. Demanding "test" units for an "impartial" review and demanding ad dollars from the same company is a different story.
posted June 15, 2006 04:58 PM
Edited By: fish_antlers on 15 Jun 2006 18:01
TJ... you're misreading the post... we never offered advertising to Ivan in any shape or form... it was ZX14.net who had an ad deal (according to the post on zx14ninja.com)
We were NEVER trying in any way, shape or form "squeezing" ad dollars from Ivan.
You're way way way outta line. Get your facts and sites straight, ad-man
(this is a soap opera. learn the players and the websites before you make accusations)
____________ What business is it of yours where I'm from, Friendo?
quote:TJ... you're misreading the post... we never offered advertising to Ivan in any shape or form... it was ZX14.net who had an ad deal (according to the post on zx14ninja.com)
We were NEVER trying in any way, shape or form "squeezing" ad dollars from Ivan.
You're way way way outta line. Get your facts and sites straight, ad-man
(this is a soap opera. learn the players)
"if people want to flog their warez they need to respect that and contribute like all the other sponsors, provided their product lives up to its promise."
posted June 15, 2006 05:06 PM
Edited By: fish_antlers on 15 Jun 2006 18:09
fuck you... learn your context. Ivan did not have any ad deal with BIkeland in any way shape or form and you're suggesting otherwise. Don't back track and take quotes out of context from another thread to save face.
You're out of order...
and what I said in that topic stands... if people want to advertise they need to pay for that advertising. That has absolutely NOTHING to do with the reviews we conduct. Products sink or float on their own merit on this site.. not on a "pay per play" basis. Since you're still a nice "new" member it's becoming obvious that you have not been around for the years of consumer product slaughter that have transpired on this site... of products supplied by sponsors and non-sponsors.
No one is safe.
We're equal opportunity haters... straight up.
____________ What business is it of yours where I'm from, Friendo?
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