marco383
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posted June 12, 2006 11:33 AM
ZX14 Power Commander
Dynojet is now saying that their Power Commander for the 14 is still several weeks away. I realize that Schnitz is selling a recycled 10R unit, but from the note on his website about problems relating to downloading future Dynojet maps, I'm inclined to wait for the real thing. Am I being overly cautious?
  
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vegasdude
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posted June 12, 2006 12:20 PM
Brock's version works great and I've downloaded a map to it with no problems........
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iflyphi
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posted June 12, 2006 02:05 PM
I got the Ryan Schnitz special and it works great. I hooked up a 9 volt battery to it, plugged it into my laptop with the powercommander software running, and told it to upload the map I had, poof, done. No cutting or pasting nothing. The Powercommander has lines that go to like 14K rpm, but the maps I had only go to like 12k rpm, and where made by Ryan. It went in with no problem, and all the little cells lined up where they were supposed to be. It didn't fill anything out past 12,000 rpm, just like it's supposed to.
If you want to wait, then do so, but I see no problem whatsoever in using the ones that are out there now. Everybody is using the 10R ones, and nobody has any problems with them. I wouldn't worry about something your not gonna see, only tune once or twice.
Just get it, mount and tune it, and forget it.
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marco383
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posted June 12, 2006 03:04 PM
Is a map available for a Muzzy full system? Brock will only sell me a PC with a "zero"map, meaning that I'd have to trailer the bike to a tuning center to get it to run at all after the thing is installed.
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smokinZX14
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posted June 12, 2006 03:07 PM
 Edited By: smokinZX14 on 12 Jun 2006 16:08
Schnitz will load the Muzzy map or you can do it ...Muzzy has two maps i think one for a full system and one with MR9 fuel ...
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iflyphi
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posted June 12, 2006 03:26 PM
Marco, you don't have to trailer it, just get a map from Brock or Muzzy and use the 9volt adapter and install it off your pc. Or install it with zero map and ride the thing. There are a few guys that just installed the pipe and no powercommander and don't have any problem. With zero map it is exactly the same as stock.
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cls
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posted June 12, 2006 04:13 PM
I just ordered my exhaust and PC from Brock today. They told me it would have the map for their exhaust installed. I hope they told me right. You may want to double-check w/them. Or maybe I should...
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vegasdude
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posted June 12, 2006 05:09 PM
It will come with the latest map. They will send you an email to register and you will receive new maps for different configurations or improvements without asking. Registration is free to all pipe purchasers............
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zxbob
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posted June 12, 2006 08:13 PM
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Am I being overly cautious?
No ..... just missing out on the fun you could be having 'now"
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fastestbusaaround
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posted June 12, 2006 08:17 PM
So if it;s the same as the one for the 10R, why is DJ taking so long to build the one for the 14? Could it be that they're building one that actually opens the sub throttle plates at low RPM's? I think they have that ability...
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vegasdude
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posted June 12, 2006 08:20 PM
It's not the same as the 10R. Some rewiring had to be done..............don't much more than it works.......
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zxbob
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posted June 12, 2006 08:21 PM
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So if it;s the same as the one for the 10R, why is DJ taking so long to build the one for the 14? Could it be that they're building one that actually opens the sub throttle plates at low RPM's? I think they have that ability...
Good question ...........
But I guess that does'nt matter to us :d
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fastestbusaaround
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posted June 12, 2006 08:38 PM
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It's not the same as the 10R. Some rewiring had to be done..............don't much more than it works.......
Wiring doesn't take months in R&D at Dynojet...that's a matter of days...it's got to be more than that.
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vegasdude
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posted June 12, 2006 08:39 PM
No, I'm talking about what Brock did.............not Dusty!
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fastestbusaaround
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posted June 13, 2006 05:41 AM
I know that, but as I said before, Brock and everyone else say they modded the plu/wiring to fit the 14...so if that's all that has to be done, you'd think that DJ would have the unit out by now, and they don't. So I suspect that they are doing something else other than just wiring...
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tslewisz
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posted June 13, 2006 05:59 AM
Edited By: tslewisz on 13 Jun 2006 07:00
Stock '06 10R unit on mine. Not from Ryan, not from Brock. My tuner got it from Parts Unlimited. Just lengthened the ground wire. Had my tuner do a custom map.
Again, I'd like to know the whole story of all the different versions, blah, blah, blah.
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ZXLNT
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posted June 13, 2006 12:22 PM
Your saying it plug directly in with NO Modifications???
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tslewisz
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posted June 13, 2006 12:25 PM
Yes.
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swiftkart
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posted June 13, 2006 06:02 PM
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Your saying it plug directly in with NO Modifications???
The 06 zx10r pc is what Ryan and Brock are selling now, I think Brock takes the time to lenghen the ground wire so you don't have to though and yes they plug right in, the 06 10r has the same plugs as the zx14...Muzzy had some of the real #224-411 PC's for the zx14, but have sold out so the things are out, it's just like waiting for the bikes all over again, the top stores get them first, I've seen the zx14 pc a fellow racer sponsored by Kaw and Muzzy got one the week before last, it came with real zx14 instructions, part number on the box/pc, not 10r instructions.
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sands
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posted June 13, 2006 06:28 PM
I think I'd wait for the official ZX14 version to come out...
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zx1kr
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posted June 13, 2006 07:16 PM
I just ordered a couple of PCIII usb's for the ZX14 directly from Dynojet. They said last week of june 1st week of july. If anyone wants 1 let me know. 1st. come, 1st served!
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