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posted June 01, 2006 06:20 PM
exhaust
I was thinking about keeping the duals on the 14, does anyone know if there is anyone making a complete dual system, so that I could still cut a little bit of weight.
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posted June 01, 2006 06:23 PM
 Edited By: TJ on 1 Jun 2006 19:24
Why would anyone put an aftermarket dual exhaust full system on a 4 cyl bike?
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posted June 01, 2006 06:56 PM
Tj,
i want to loose weight but i want to stay with the duals
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posted June 01, 2006 06:59 PM
singles will make ya faster!
Its not a shotgun bro! 
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posted June 01, 2006 07:03 PM
all the duals so far still use the stock POS header with the wrong primaries tied together, and weighs more than a full single....
Makes maybe 2 more HP peak, where a good single will make that everywhere and up to 15 HP in upper RPM!
RWHP !!! #'s!
BTW most dual slip ons cost the same as a single.
Makes no financial nor functional sense bro!
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cesspenar
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posted June 01, 2006 07:05 PM
imho looks much better with dual... but to each his own 
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EASY
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posted June 02, 2006 05:32 AM
Your right---to each his own. I figure if a stock bike will run mid nines at almost 150, the stock system is not a total fuk-up. Sure it weighs more and all that---but---150 in the 1/4??
I am going to wait on Akropovic and try to live with the stock system until then. I know it will be "slow" until then, but I kinda like it quite--for a while.
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posted June 02, 2006 06:54 AM
The stock system is fine. It is just a compromise between cost, power, and emissions.
A good aftermarket system will take cost and emissions out of the equation
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posted June 02, 2006 07:09 AM
Edited By: dubious on 2 Jun 2006 08:11
Well its far from perfect too!
Yup to each his own, depends what you wanna do with it, ......spank or be spanked!
Gsxr1000, zx10, and busa's will give it a good run for the money, and if not stock... then some!
to each his own!
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posted June 02, 2006 07:43 AM
I'm glad I'm not the only one that prefers the look of the dual exhaust on the big bore GT's. I have 2 Brothers slip-ons on my XX. I think those bikes look unbalanced with single sided exhaust, and I'll STILL save 7to 10 pounds going to slip-ons and mids over the stock exhaust cannisters and connecting pipes. I don't need more power. I'm pretty ok with the stock power, I just want a bit more bark, she is too quiet. Not everyone needs to hop the bike up to maximum performance, there are plenty of people happy to ride the ZX as is.
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posted June 02, 2006 08:04 AM
Some of you guys just don't get it. There are many of us who don't care about adding power by changing the exhaust system, we just want something that sounds better. Replacing the stock cans with a new set of cans will improve sound and *save weight*. Why do you'all have to go and get offended if someone isn't willing to go single?
If you don't have an answer to the question, then don't respond. If you do, and the original question is about duals, then post up.
I totally understand that it is highly unlikely that any aftermarket exhaust manufacturer will ever offer a replacement header/pipe system with duals, but it doesn't hurt to ask. That's why boards like this exist - to get a question out to a large group of people who might know about something new.... 
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posted June 02, 2006 08:05 AM
I definatley agree with at least making it a little bit louder.....not obnoxiuos, but a little louder.
Cages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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posted June 02, 2006 08:12 AM
The stock zx-14 exhaust is NOT fine.
Just like the stock zx-12r exhaust it's an overweight pig. 
It's absurdly heavy.
If you want to wake up your 14 the first thing I would do is dump the factory exhaust.
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posted June 02, 2006 08:32 AM
I'm also waiting to see what Akrapovic will do, I hope they are developing a full 4-1-2 Titanium header system with carbon slipons. Ideally this is the setup I would like to have. The bike looks more balanced with two mufflers in my opinion, of course though if I can't get the system I want I'm going to try and have installed two small Moto GP style exhausts, one out either side =)
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posted June 02, 2006 08:56 AM
Its illegal in all 50 states to change the exhaust system or to put "slipons" on the bike.
I'm calling the cops right now. Wheres my damn phone...
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posted June 02, 2006 09:03 AM
quote:
all the duals so far still use the stock POS header with the wrong primaries tied together, and weighs more than a full single....
Makes maybe 2 more HP peak, where a good single will make that everywhere and up to 15 HP in upper RPM!
not quite accurate. http://areapnolimits.com/exhaust/zx14.html there's just one example of slip-ons that save 15 pounds (!) and good power. no actual power figures just yet mind u, but if kerry says it's good, i definitely trust his word. i'm sure muzzy's slip-ons are in the same ballpark in terms of power & weight. but yeah, teh headers are heavy too. i'd replace them too just for the weight savings.
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posted June 02, 2006 09:25 AM
Oh right on, till now all i heard of was slip ons with stock header, and 2-3 HP gains..
Cool for you double barrel dudes!
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posted June 02, 2006 12:21 PM
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Oh right on, till now all i heard of was slip ons with stock header, and 2-3 HP gains..
Cool for you double barrel dudes!
I must have missed it. Who sells the double sided full system?
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posted June 02, 2006 02:01 PM
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that prefers the look of the dual exhaust on the big bore GT's. I have 2 Brothers slip-ons on my XX. I think those bikes look unbalanced with single sided exhaust, and I'll STILL save 7to 10 pounds going to slip-ons and mids over the stock exhaust cannisters and connecting pipes. I don't need more power. I'm pretty ok with the stock power, I just want a bit more bark, she is too quiet. Not everyone needs to hop the bike up to maximum performance, there are plenty of people happy to ride the ZX as is.
i wonder why manufacture did not do single exhuast and went with dual. it is performance, balance, handling, etc.. i think the factory engineering know one of two things about making bikes!!! i got dual muzzy carbon fiber slip on in mine and is perfectly fine
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posted June 02, 2006 02:04 PM
You may try HMF they did one for the busa I think...........
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posted June 02, 2006 02:11 PM
Beet or Nasert or whoever it is. Looks nice for duals...
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posted June 02, 2006 02:56 PM
They used 2 cans because of emmisions. With 1 can the muffler would have been huge.
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posted June 02, 2006 03:36 PM
emmisions meaning sound levels in this case (dont believe there's any effect on pollution output)
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posted June 02, 2006 05:07 PM
I put a lot of work into my 12r, i had the muzzy 1270 and full micron, and on my ZX-11 I traded out my duals for a full muzzy; this time, I just want the sound and I am not going to put all that work into it. If someone on a busa, GSXR1000, or aZX-10r beat me racing, that means they would have beaten me with a single exhaust because they were a better drag racer than I am. So for now I am going to wait and put on akcraprovic slip-ons.
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