zxlnt
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posted May 29, 2006 01:44 PM
Check out this information on the the ZX10R/ZX14 power commander.
http://www.zx14ninja.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=752&highlight=
So is it a plug and play or a re-pin?
Shrugs..
  
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zxlnt
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posted May 29, 2006 01:45 PM
Check out this information on the the ZX10R/ZX14 power commander.
http://www.zx14ninja.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=752&highlight=
So is it a plug and play or a re-pin?
Shrugs..
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fastestbusaaround
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posted May 29, 2006 01:50 PM
Trying to get yer post count up?
Trying to get yer post count up?
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zxlnt
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posted May 29, 2006 02:05 PM
Lol no, It double posted for some reason. Definately not a post whore. Are you?
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fastestbusaaround
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posted May 29, 2006 02:08 PM
Nope
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Drowland
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posted May 30, 2006 02:43 PM
Both R Dirty Whores
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zxlnt
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posted May 30, 2006 03:47 PM
Yeah he has more posts than I do and he has been here hardly a year. My post count is from FIVE YEARS of being here. So who is the whore, huh? I say who is the whore..
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fastestbusaaround
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posted May 31, 2006 07:21 AM
 Edited By: fastestbusaaround on 31 May 2006 08:33
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Both R Dirty Whores
Drowland -- nice to hear from ya 
Oh ya, ZXLNT -- I have more posts than you because I have no life :P
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Tool Man
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posted May 31, 2006 08:30 AM
We r all addicts:P
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wndsrfr
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posted June 01, 2006 04:16 AM
Just a thought
what happens if we drill holes in, or reshaped the secondarys'
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zxlnt
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posted June 01, 2006 04:51 AM
If you gonna mess with them I would just remove them completely..
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fastestbusaaround
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posted June 01, 2006 05:12 AM
Anybody done this yet?
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posted June 01, 2006 05:24 AM
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If there is a fix i'm sure Muzzy or Brock will be in the case real quick ...As fast as the bikes are running i'm not really sure it's a problem ....Brock sure didn't say anything about it in his drag test.
Brock did tell me in a phone conversation that he felt there was way too much power in 1st, and I believe he was referring to what he see's on the drag strip..but for the rest of us, it would be really nice to have that power on the street. Since they usually launch the 14 at 5K+ on the track, there would be no need to fuck with the curve below that. That being said, removing the 2nd butterfly -- would the bike handle that well? I would think that you would need more fuel along with the higher inrush of air? I don't believe the ECU can compensate for that, since the only time it would add more fuel, is when IT DECIDES to open the secondary butterfy and not simply when the butterfly is removed from the bike altogether. I would think that any type of fix like this should be tested on the Dyno to see where the A/F mixture is and how the curve is affected by the "fix". I also think a PCIII could be mapped to handle that, since you can dictate the A/F by throttle position and RPM. Sounds too easy, but maybe that's the solution...now who's gonna rip the 1st 14 apart to try this .
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aughtsix
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posted June 01, 2006 05:21 PM
I've been thinking the same thing...
The ECU is probably set up to deliver fuel on a curve based on its opening the secondary butterflies.
So my guess is that, if one were to remove the secondary butterflies, then whack the throttle open too quickly, the ECU would 'see' its secondary butterfly position as the amount of air with which to inject fuel. Problem is, without the secondary butterflies, when the throttle is whacked open the pressure in the ports (past the first 'mechanical' butterflies) will go to atmospheric, the velocity will drop and the ECU will only be injecting the amount of fuel it sees as appropriate for the secondary butterfly position - not nearly enough to feed the need.
Welcome to Bogville.
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dubious
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posted June 01, 2006 05:43 PM
+1 ...what i said earlier !
It would fall on its face unless the fuel map, and ignition timing compensate
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