fastestbusaaround
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posted May 22, 2006 05:43 PM
Suspension adjustments
Curious to see if anyone my size has setup the suspension yet...I'm 6'2" and 210 lbs...since I found the bike somewhat soft and with a tendency to bottom on the front shocks on bad bumps and a bit of wallow, I tightened her up last night and rode her today.
I gave the compresion and rebound damping, front and rear and front pre load a single 360 turn each. I rode it today and found it a bit too bouncy now...I don't have a lot of experience setting up suspensions myself; I've always had a pro do it for me...but want learn more about doing it myself. So, I am curious, exactly what effect will each of the settings have? Do I need to adjust them all or single out some of them? Has anyone here my size done their's to a degree that they are happy with?
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s1stl
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posted May 22, 2006 05:51 PM
FBA, I'm close to your size. 6'4" 206 without gear. I'm going to get my sag set right as soon as the bike's broken in a little more. If you find something that works, let me know. And vise versa.
Steve
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fastestbusaaround
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posted May 22, 2006 06:00 PM
ok...
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TJ
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posted May 22, 2006 06:01 PM
I'm patiently waiting for Ohlins to release a rear shock for the 14. I would still love to hear about any suspension settings that seem to work 
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s1stl
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posted May 22, 2006 06:05 PM
FBA, some good sites to check out are:
http://www.ohlins.se/
http://www.race-tech.com/SubMenu.asp?cMenu=17&c=Yes&showPage=street
http://www.sportrider.com/tech/suspension/
Good info for setting up suspension.
Steve
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s1stl
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posted May 22, 2006 06:08 PM
TJ, that Ohlins 46ERS that they have for the ZX-12R is probably the one that they would use for the 14. I like the remote preload adjuster. Have always liked Ohlins products. I have them front and rear on my Ducati.
Steve
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CrotchRocket
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posted May 22, 2006 06:59 PM
FBA, put the rebound and compression back to where it was...Go for a 20 minute ride to warm up the suspention, Then adjust the fork spring adjuster 1 full furn clockwise and the same for the rear spring...Now go for a ride, if to soft then do it again until you like the stiffness...The springs should do some of the work, not just the rebound and compression, that way the shock will last longer...
I recommend dropping the forks a 1/2 inch, then you will not get any tank slappers...
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FasterThanStink
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posted May 22, 2006 07:46 PM
http://www.ohlins.se/
http://www.race-tech.com/SubMenu.asp?cMenu=17&c=Yes&showPage=street
http://www.sportrider.com/tech/suspension/
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zermatt
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posted May 22, 2006 08:06 PM
How difficult is it to spin the preload rings on the rear shock? My old ZZR was externally adjustable, so I never had to mess with spanner wrenches or anything fancy. Can it be done without spanners or taking the rear wheel off to gain access?
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fastestbusaaround
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posted May 23, 2006 02:57 AM
Yup, but you just need the right tool for it...my 10R was impossible without that tool...
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TheVak
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posted May 23, 2006 05:46 AM
Brock has the ohlins all ready to go if thats what you want.
http://stores.skipjack.com/brockracing/Search.bok?category=Kawasaki%3AZX-14
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FasterThanStink
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posted May 23, 2006 05:50 AM
 Edited By: FasterThanStink on 23 May 2006 06:51
http://stores.skipjack.com/brockracing/Search.bok?category=Kawasaki%3AZX-14
Brock only has a dragracing shock listed.
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TJ
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posted May 23, 2006 07:07 AM
A dragracing shock won't do me any good.
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FasterThanStink
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posted May 23, 2006 08:59 AM
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A dragracing shock won't do me any good.
Call Racetech. Often the ZX-14 products are available but their site's or info have not been published with the info. If they don't have something now, I would bet that within a month they will.
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TJ
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posted May 23, 2006 04:09 PM
I'm not in that much of a hurry. Now that the bike is in my garage, I can be patient with the other stuff
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zx1kr
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posted May 27, 2006 12:44 PM
I just want to let you know that I too felt the forks were too soft. I'm 6'2" 235lb. I turned the preload down 1 line, increased the rebound by 1 click to the right (gold screws on top of forks). I turned the comp. damp 1/4 turn to the left (screw on lower bottom of fork) this feels real good for now. I'm not riding full on , only 200 miles on ODO. So these settings will probably not be optimum at full tilt. They are pretty good for now, haven't bottomed out forks & they're tracking nice. Haven't touched the rear shock yet it feels good for now. I will set the sag front & rear when I get an extra set of hands. Hope this was helpful.
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posted May 27, 2006 08:50 PM
Yeah the front forks are way soft. I increased the preload and compression,rebound damping some. I still need to go up on the preload. I think the rear shock needs more rebound damping because it really springs back hard over bumps...
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zx1kr
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posted May 29, 2006 02:48 PM
I added a 1/2 line more of preload to the fork & put the comp. damp back to stock. The rear shock I gave 1 full turn on preload & 1 click to the right on the rebound . I still haven't set the sag(I need 2 people to give a hand). I'am probably going to stop screwing around & have Lindemann Engineering set me up a Penske 3 -way & overhaul the forks. That was what it took for me to be right on my 10R. It was worth every penny.
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thevak
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posted May 30, 2006 09:40 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm an Ohlins shock $1295.00 I should get a dozen lol.
Unless you race and can't control yourself on the street then that is rediculous.
If you ride so hard that the back shock is such an issue that you won't be with
us long so send your info I wan't to get a life insurance policy on you.........................
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zx1kr
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posted May 31, 2006 08:00 PM
Edited By: zx1kr on 31 May 2006 21:10
See, a post like that tends to expose ignorance. Those 2 suspension changes will net me more confidence & speed in any corner I approach than you will ever have the pleasure of experiencing! If you read the post I said Penske not Ohlins (Penske costs more but you get what you pay for! )
Yes , my friend I do ride that hard & I enjoy it more safely with the above listed mods.
When you make a statement like yours, it just showed that you haven't been there & probably never will.
Can't wait to see what you think of a set of Galfer waves , EBC HH Pads & S.S. Brake lines
I have done these mods on ALL of my street/track bikes. They are worth every penny!
One more thing, what you pay & what I pay are vastly different , if you have to pay 1295.00 for an Ohlins Shock that must be painful.
Not sure how this works, but pics of 10R w/ new suspension. 14 will wear the same soon!
BIKELAND.ORG > FORUMS > ZX10R ZONE.com > Thread: pics: zx-10r gets new suspenders
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TJ
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posted May 31, 2006 08:11 PM
I was the one that wanted an Ohlins shock. I personally prefer Ohlins over Penske. Nothing wrong with either one. I am not aware of any test or scientific basis for calling either one "better" than the other.
Suspension is one of the best mods someone can make. As for cost, who cares? Its just money and you can't take it with you I spent over $12K on a bike and then another $1K for a pipe. I sure am not going to start getting cheap on something as important as suspension.
By the way, I talked to Jim Lindemann about parts for the ZX14. He has replacement shock springs in stock and either has or can get new fork springs. Ohlins shocks are not out yet.
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zx1kr
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posted May 31, 2006 08:18 PM
LE is the way to go! He set up my Penske Ultimate (Ti Spring) for my 04' ZX10R. I 'am a Dealer for his products. If you want me to drop you a line on new stuff as it becomes available , can do! He also sets-up Ohlins Boingers.
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thevak
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posted May 31, 2006 08:41 PM
Anyway I was only fucking around for one. And on the other side I am an
ex cop ( no I did'nt ride around giving out tickets ) I worked in a Federal Building.
My point being you mentioned more power and speed in corners. If your going to
push the 14 to these limits your not going to last long meaning licsence wise or
your life. I ride hard as fuck so Im assuming you want to go nuts. I have seen
allot of dead bikers when I worked FAR ( fatal accident reconstruction ) and yes
I have seen ohlins shocks next to peoples cracked heads so just becareful. If your
talking about the riding I think you are if not then disregaurd.
Vak
And I would be wise to take my own advise yes I go a little nuts sometimes lol my bad
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thevak
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posted May 31, 2006 08:48 PM
Oh shit I only read the first sentence when I replied lmao now I read the rest.
Your gonna pop a blood vessel bro lmao. My last Kawi was turbo charged with
22lbs of boost and 140ftls of torque. Im not going to get into a pissing match
over a goof thing I said life is too shirt and I don't give a fuck lol.
Here is a few clips of my racing days and the turbo
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/e33c9e59-4e99-443a-be8b-39b0d225af9f.htm
Oh and yeah I like turns too lmao don't make me come and fuck your girl or wife
just ride safe lol...........
http://chrisisripped.tripod.com/index.html
Here's poor me I'll never enjoy anything waaaaaaaaaa lmao
Your lucky Im high or I would'nt entertain you this way typing is for chicks
I have to ride later.........
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TJ
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posted May 31, 2006 08:50 PM
I don't think anyone actually believes an aftermarket shock will prevent all accidents.
However, a properly tuned suspension will enhance your riding in 20 MPH tight twisties as much as 100 MPH sweepers. You don't need to ride super fast to get benefit out of an upgraded suspension.
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