fish_antlers
Administrator
The Truth is Out There
Posts: 21895
|
posted May 07, 2006 06:27 PM
Poll Question:
Engine Heat Poll (Owners only please)
I'm interested in hearing from people who actually OWN a ZX-14 and what they think about the engine heat and how it is dealt with. Our personal experience was a lack of engine heat, however this is in comparison to a ZX-12R and a ZX-10R.
Many members have responded noting a lack of heat, yet other the opposite. Is your comparison in relation to a ZX-10R, 12R or other bike?
NOTE: I AM TALKING ABOUT ENGINE HEAT BEING "BLOWN" ONTO THE RIDER NOT THE TEMPERATURE OF THE ENGINE AS INDICATED ON THE TEMPERATURE GUAGE. PLEASE DO NOT CONFUSE THIS. THIS POLL REQUIRES THAT YOU READ!!! 
____________
What business is it of yours where I'm from, Friendo?
Poll Results:
 4 votes (15%)
Hot compared to a 10R or 12R
0 votes (0%)
Cold compared to a 10R or 12R
2 votes (7%)
Hot compared to a ZZR-1200
0 votes (0%)
Cold compared to a ZZR-1200
9 votes (33%)
Hot compared to your "other" bike
8 votes (30%)
Cold compared to your "other bike
4 votes (15%)
It's perfect. Leave me alone and stop asking this question!!
   
|
TJ
Zone Head
Posts: 604
|
posted May 07, 2006 06:42 PM
There were options for hot and cold but no vote option for "the same". I have not noticed a big diference in engine heat when compared to my ZX12R and/or CBR929RR.
|
fastestbusaaround
Needs a life
I eat Fish...
Posts: 7889
|
posted May 07, 2006 06:47 PM
This bike throws more heat on the rider at low speed and when stopped than my 05 10R...not as bad as the R1, but not much better either.
____________
FYYFF!!!
|
smokinZX14
Needs a life
Posts: 10197
|
posted May 07, 2006 06:57 PM
I get no heat from my zrx1200 .... My 05 zx10 didn't seem to put off much heat ... The zx14 heats my knees up pretty good and that's riding at nite with temps in the high 60s to low 70s ...I don't think i want to ride the zx14 in the FL summer heat....I will try it this summer but i bet i'm not going to be happy ...
____________
Smokin Performance Cycles..
Tampa Bay , FL .. Brocks Performance Dealer ..
Gen 2 ZX14R Best ET 8.43 , Best MPH 164.95
|
Drowland
Zone Head
Posts: 733
|
posted May 07, 2006 06:59 PM
Only time it gets hot is in the city the harder you run it the cooler it gets.. I ride it hard in the country. This is not a city bike... Its better than the 05 R1
|
zx61114
Expert Class
Posts: 327
|
posted May 07, 2006 07:17 PM
Fish just a heads up. I've owned 3 VFR's, 2 ZX-11's and 2 ZX-6's with the exception of the 600's heat was always worse on the new tighter engine the first several months than say after 3-4000 miles. Today's engines are designed to run lean thus hotter than if the fuel mixture were normal. I feel confident that after say 4000 miles this motorcycle will not be as hot as some (including me) are experencing. Not to say it won't be hot or very warm from time to time. 2 days ago it was 78-81 F and this bike was very very uncomfy. Today riding in traffic then hi-way back into traffic, the before hi-way riding the heat was getting un-comfy. However after the hi-way temperture climbed right back up there and I did not feel the heat the way it was just 30 mins earlier (outside temp 88-90F). Lets be fair in the way we report this issue by comparing the 14 vs. Bike year and miles.
ZX-14 = 400+ miles is hotter than
2002 VFR = 83,553 miles
OH yea I'm the nerd of the group. (eyes roll)
|
Tool Man
Needs a job
Posts: 4493
|
posted May 07, 2006 07:19 PM
My ZRX was never too hot even in Phoenix; the older '90 ZX 10 directed the heat back at the rider more. The function of the fairing dictates this some I think. The 14 is hot on the rider when the temperature rises above 90 deg Fahrenheit when sitting. It is not horrible though as it is less of a problem at speed.
____________
The banks are failing..
The banks are failing...
Invest in Ammo
|
fastestbusaaround
Needs a life
I eat Fish...
Posts: 7889
|
posted May 07, 2006 07:23 PM
quote:
Fish just a heads up. I've owned 3 VFR's, 2 ZX-11's and 2 ZX-6's with the exception of the 600's heat was always worse on the new tighter engine the first several months than say after 3-4000 miles. Today's engines are designed to run lean thus hotter than if the fuel mixture were normal. I feel confident that after say 4000 miles this motorcycle will not be as hot as some (including me) are experencing. Not to say it won't be hot or very warm from time to time. 2 days ago it was 78-81 F and this bike was very very uncomfy. Today riding in traffic then hi-way back into traffic, the before hi-way riding the heat was getting un-comfy. However after the hi-way temperture climbed right back up there and I did not feel the heat the way it was just 30 mins earlier (outside temp 88-90F). Lets be fair in the way we report this issue by comparing the 14 vs. Bike year and miles.
ZX-14 = 400+ miles is hotter than
2002 VFR = 83,553 miles
OH yea I'm the nerd of the group. (eyes roll)
LOL :}
____________
FYYFF!!!
|
zermatt
Pro
Posts: 1931
|
posted May 07, 2006 07:26 PM
I felt more heat on my ankles/shins on the '14 on a warm (90F) day than my ZZR did on hotter days. I believe it is improving, but I haven't had the opportunity to spend a whole "warm" day on the bike since that first experience with about 150 miles on the bike. I rode about 250 miles today in the upper 70's and everything was wonderful - no heat complaints, but there's also 1,150 miles on the bike and one oil change. Hard to say if the heat problem is getting better with age, but I do think it's possible.
I should also mention that I felt the heat mostly on my right ankle, not my left. I have also had a stupid little foam "wedge" come unlodged from the right side under the plastic cover sandwiched between the clutch housing. I've shoved that stupid thing back into place at least 6 times now - pushing further each time in an attempt to get it to STAY PUT. Today I rode 250 miles, a few of those being at 175+ speeds, and it didn't move. Maybe I pushed it far enough this time, who knows.
So far though, I will say that both "felt" heat and engine temp (gauge) have improved since my initial complaints.
____________
'06 Passion Red ZX-14 | Black D&D Slip-ons | Speedo Healer | V1 | zumo 550 | Heli-Risers | PhantomX
|
Tool Man
Needs a job
Posts: 4493
|
posted May 07, 2006 07:32 PM
Stupid foam pieces
____________
The banks are failing..
The banks are failing...
Invest in Ammo
|
zxbob
Pro
Posts: 1692
|
posted May 07, 2006 08:01 PM
 Edited By: zxbob on 7 May 2006 21:04
quote:
Stupid foam pieces
You can remove all of them, but more heat will come out at your shins and ankels.
As posted by other members, my "other bike" is a ZRX1200 and it has no problem
with rider heat. This is my first "sport bike" and I love it, The heats not that big of a deal.
PS. the ZRX is way faster too.......
____________
Good parts aint cheap and cheap parts aint good !
|
Drowland
Zone Head
Posts: 733
|
posted May 08, 2006 05:31 AM
Thats a bad ass bike!
|
shawnski
Pro
Posts: 1809
|
posted May 08, 2006 07:31 AM
i live in houston, tx which is famous for heat and hummidity, i rode mine yesterday about 150 miles, temp was around 85 degrees, did not feel much heat on my leg as you drive on highways., but when you stop at stop lite, temperature goes up alot quicker than any other bikes i had except zx12. i would say is as bad as zx12. it is around your knee down.
____________
|
dubious
Needs a life
Needs more time to ride!
Posts: 8442
|
posted May 08, 2006 08:26 AM
HP = Heat
Want a cool ride?
Buy a moped!
|
fastestbusaaround
Needs a life
I eat Fish...
Posts: 7889
|
posted May 08, 2006 10:43 AM
T'is what t'is people...Dubious is right...that's the price we're gonna pay for this ticket. KHI was never that good at heat management; one thing Zuk has over them...but, I'll keep my 14 over the Busa any day of the week. Power aside (more of it in any case) it just does everything better than my Busa's ever did, except low speed roll-on's which will be fixed at some point in the aftermarket anyway and at least it has real brakes! :NAHA
____________
FYYFF!!!
|
Squareman357
Expert Class
Posts: 148
|
posted May 08, 2006 12:23 PM
More heat at slow traffic speeds (800 miles and one oil change on the bike) than my XX (30K on my 2002). Fine once I get where I can open her up. It's all good. I'll live with that minor issue 'cause all the rest of the bike makes it better!
____________
Keep the shiny side up!
Square
'06 Ebony Metallic ZX-14 - "Delilah"
'02 Silver CBR1100XX - "Stormcloud"
'04 GS500F - "Wife's Bike"
|
zx61114
Expert Class
Posts: 327
|
posted May 08, 2006 12:42 PM
I may get a chance to see how well this puppy cools in the rain. I don't know about you all but above say 85 degrees the 14's fan runs all the time.
|
shawnski
Pro
Posts: 1809
|
posted May 08, 2006 02:17 PM
zx61114:
you are right, the fan is constantly on. reminds me of zx12. my busa never was like that.
____________
|
smokinZX14
Needs a life
Posts: 10197
|
posted May 08, 2006 02:26 PM
quote:
I may get a chance to see how well this puppy cools in the rain. I don't know about you all but above say 85 degrees the 14's fan runs all the time.
My fan is not running all the time .. but it does come on just about ever stop ... I hope after a full break in that comes to a stop...
____________
Smokin Performance Cycles..
Tampa Bay , FL .. Brocks Performance Dealer ..
Gen 2 ZX14R Best ET 8.43 , Best MPH 164.95
|
jimp
Expert Class
Posts: 291
|
posted May 08, 2006 02:51 PM
Edited By: jimp on 8 May 2006 16:16
There's not any kind of a heat problem with this bike, if you think its hot in anyway go buy a FUCKING HARDLEY, whiners.
____________
Where's my 14 ???
|
fastestbusaaround
Needs a life
I eat Fish...
Posts: 7889
|
posted May 08, 2006 03:41 PM
jimp, that's hardly constructive...most big twin Harley's don't generate heat on the rider. This bike does...most of the guys here who have 14's now will admit to having more heat than they would like on the 14...you're almost alone here when you make that type of statement. Where do you live -- in Kamchatka in an igloo?
____________
FYYFF!!!
|
jimp
Expert Class
Posts: 291
|
posted May 08, 2006 04:07 PM
quote:
jimp, that's hardly constructive...most big twin Harley's don't generate heat on the rider. This bike does...most of the guys here who have 14's now will admit to having more heat than they would like on the 14...you're almost alone here when you make that type of statement. Where do you live -- in Kamchatka in an igloo?
Your kiding me, the cross over will burn your right lower leg and your passengers right foot, plus your right foot will get very hot.
Florida
____________
Where's my 14 ???
|
fastestbusaaround
Needs a life
I eat Fish...
Posts: 7889
|
posted May 08, 2006 04:12 PM
Dude...I have a 99 Road King 107ci making tons of power...no heat issues at all, unless I stick my hand on the pipes...even when it was stock at 1450...same thing...this is only like my 15th or 20th HOG...dunno what to tell ya...but the 14, nuther story...
____________
FYYFF!!!
|
jimp
Expert Class
Posts: 291
|
posted May 08, 2006 04:18 PM
quote:
Dude...I have a 99 Road King 107ci making tons of power...no heat issues at all, unless I stick my hand on the pipes...even when it was stock at 1450...same thing...this is only like my 15th or 20th HOG...dunno what to tell ya...but the 14, nuther story...
I can tell you to bring it down to Florida and ride.
____________
Where's my 14 ???
|
fastestbusaaround
Needs a life
I eat Fish...
Posts: 7889
|
posted May 08, 2006 04:22 PM
Done Day Tuna many times with it...been doin it for over 30 years...(not with that bike though)
____________
FYYFF!!!
|
|
|
HOME
NEW TOPIC