ZZR
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posted March 29, 2006 11:45 AM
Different warranties
Hi,
has anyone an idea, why in US the warranty is only 12 months???
All over Europe there are default 24 months with unlimited km, optional 36 or 48 months.
What makes the difference???
   
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zerMATT
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posted March 29, 2006 12:46 PM
I've often wondered that too.
Could be that Americans aren't used to long warranties, so they don't question it. American car manufacturer didn't start offering longer warranties until the Asian car manufacturers started kicking their asses on quality and product longevity. Now you can at least get 3/36 on most american cars, and in some cases more.
A few possibilities come to mind:
1. Do the Asian manufacturers only think they are competing with HD in the American market, not with each-other, and therefore aren't trying to "best" the competition with a better warranty?
2. Are us Americans used to poor warranty coverage, and used to paying for repairs that we don't expect anything better?
3. Are the Asian bikes soooo good that they don't need a longer warranty?
I've had my ZZR for 4 years and 21,000 miles and only had two problems with it. The first was covered under warranty, the original Yuasa battery failed and was replaced by another Yuasa battery that is still doing great. The second problem was my fault - the speed-o cable snapped internally because of my not paying attention when removing/installing the wheel.
I know that ZX-11's had transimssion problems that usually only popped up after a time, and I don't know how many people were able to get theirs fixed under warranty. My neighbor's '93 ZX-11D lost 3rd gear after about 10 years (only 9,000 miles though) and he had to pay a pretty good chunk to have it fixed.
I, for one, am thinking about the 24 or 36 month extended warranty on the 14 though. Being a new model, you never know what issues might come to the surface after a year or two or riding.
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fullzx12r
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posted March 29, 2006 03:19 PM
in france, 24 months, and in option + 1 or 2 years 
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MAXIMUS
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posted March 29, 2006 03:42 PM
I guess it really doesnt matter the dealerships will screw you on the warrranty, FAMOUS WORDS; OH IM SORRY SIR THATS NOT COVERED UNDER THE WARRANTY!
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zermatt
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posted March 29, 2006 05:16 PM
True...
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tuusinii
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posted March 30, 2006 04:40 AM
The reason for 24 months in Europe is that it is a law to get at least 2 years for bikes and cars. It came couple Years ago from EU. So not only bad things come from EU 
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BobC
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posted March 30, 2006 05:23 AM
 Edited By: BobC on 30 Mar 2006 05:27
Don't know the reason, perhaps it's whatever the local market will stand.
One thing to consider, ZX-14 aka ZZR1400 in the UK is £8,995 that's $15,649 US Dollars.
What price are you guys paying in the US for your ZX-14's ?
I think someone said $11450 in Minnesota. You lucky, lucky people.
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MAXIMUS
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posted March 30, 2006 06:29 AM
You know we cant even get Kawasaki to release the bike yet, i dont believe we can even get an accurate price on it. It would be nice to know.
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ZZR
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posted March 30, 2006 11:58 AM
quote:
The reason for 24 months in Europe is that it is a law to get at least 2 years for bikes and cars. It came couple Years ago from EU. So not only bad things come from EU
Sorry, not quite correct!
A warranty like given bei Kawa contains much more than the law you're talking about. But this might play a role. 
In addition the 24 months warranty from Kawa exists much longer than EU law. Got it already with my first GPZ 1988. 
But perhaps the main use as touring-bike in Europe is a lower risk?!?!?!
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Reaper
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posted March 30, 2006 06:53 PM
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Don't know the reason, perhaps it's whatever the local market will stand.
One thing to consider, ZX-14 aka ZZR1400 in the UK is £8,995 that's $15,649 US Dollars.
What price are you guys paying in the US for your ZX-14's ?
I think someone said $11450 in Minnesota. You lucky, lucky people.
Maybe I should look at importing one to Australia as I'll be paying around $20,000 AUD.. 
If I can hold out until it gets here, I think it will be worth it
Reaper
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tuusinii
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posted March 30, 2006 10:08 PM
quote:
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The reason for 24 months in Europe is that it is a law to get at least 2 years for bikes and cars. It came couple Years ago from EU. So not only bad things come from EU
Sorry, not quite correct!
A warranty like given bei Kawa contains much more than the law you're talking about. But this might play a role.
In addition the 24 months warranty from Kawa exists much longer than EU law. Got it already with my first GPZ 1988.
But perhaps the main use as touring-bike in Europe is a lower risk?!?!?!
Yes, they may have given them before on some countries, but here in Finland it started just before it was mandated. Same reason that now the European car manufacturers give at least 2 years and not 1 like the did before. But on some countries the local legistlation may have made it mandatory even before the EU legistative. For example in Finland the law basically says that no matter how long - if You can show it was a manufacturing fault - they should repair it. Of course there always is some arbitary time limit that can make almost anything consumable part and the showing of it being manufacturing foult becomes the buyers duty.
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ZZR
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posted March 31, 2006 01:11 AM
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...Of course there always is some arbitary time limit that can make almost anything consumable part and the showing of it being manufacturing foult becomes the buyers duty.
That's right! Specially according cars and bikes this could become the main problem for consumers. I hope I never really will need the "Good Times Warranty" from Kawa.
But it makes a real good feeling to have.
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