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FearsomeK


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posted January 26, 2006 05:10 PM        Edited By: FearsomeK on 26 Jan 2006 17:15
ZZR14 - aerodynamics look impressive.


Now this is interesting.

Look at this picture.



Those George Foreman grill slits actually start behind the front wheel.

Behind the wheel has always been a messy area aerodynamically due to the mini bow-wave it creates and the wasteful turbulence that enters the laminar flow along the side of the bike.

Here you can see the air that normally gathers in here is actually scooped up by the lip beneath the slits and passed up these slits inside the fairing, exiting at the top of the bike (helping filling the hole?). It's clearly not for cooling purposes. Purely aerodynamics.

This thing will fly.

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posted January 26, 2006 08:49 PM        
It'll fly everywhere except off the salesroom floor...
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posted January 26, 2006 09:23 PM        Edited By: dubious on 27 Jan 2006 16:02
If it has a discernable function I will pay for it !
Otherwise its a waste.
My dealer has pre sold every bike he can get his hands on !
Appears that it fly's off the salesroom floor too!
there'll be lots of surprised busa owners this year.

Wa wa wa .....waaaaaa!
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posted January 27, 2006 06:08 PM        
There will be a lot of busa owners buying ZX-14's.

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posted January 27, 2006 08:28 PM        
...yeup...black is the way to go!......
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posted January 28, 2006 09:53 AM        Edited By: aughtsix on 28 Jan 2006 09:54
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There will be a lot of busa owners buying ZX-14's.



Perhaps...

Then again I think there may be a lot of ZX14 owners bending over for the new Busa - one way or the other...

I suspect Kawi most likely will get caught with their pants down when the new Busa is introduced, unless the craptown rumor of a 14r is true. If it is, we'll see. If it isn't, guys who've spent a bucket of money on a new 14 will have few choices:

1) Try to outspend the Busa boys to make more power (highly unlikely)
2) Try to avoid taking on a new Busa (unlikely)
3) Go ahead and take on new Busas, and lose most of the time (more likely), or
4) Take it in the shorts trading your new 14 in on a new Busa (most likely).

Currently of course this is all spit and guess as Kawi isn't releasing any information on which to say one way or the other, and the rumors of a new Busa are still just that - rumors.

I just can't help but think that overconfidence in this case is going to result in receiving the wrong end of an ungreased wooden dowel...

YMMV

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posted January 28, 2006 11:24 AM        
Yeah Busa owners buying ZX14s because it will be faster and uses the same clutch plates
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posted January 28, 2006 11:46 AM        
Earliest on May, latest on August will we know if there is any new Super-Busa or not.
Meanwhile the BIg Kawi is not out yet.

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posted January 28, 2006 12:25 PM        
quote:

Now this is interesting.

Look at this picture.



Those George Foreman grill slits actually start behind the front wheel.

Behind the wheel has always been a messy area aerodynamically due to the mini bow-wave it creates and the wasteful turbulence that enters the laminar flow along the side of the bike.

Here you can see the air that normally gathers in here is actually scooped up by the lip beneath the slits and passed up these slits inside the fairing, exiting at the top of the bike (helping filling the hole?). It's clearly not for cooling purposes. Purely aerodynamics.

This thing will fly.


Laminar flow only works for slender bodies, like airfoil sections on aircraft, which can maintain laminar flow, and then only sometimes when conditions are perfect.

The P51 was the first aircraft to be designed for laminar flow. It is a aerodynamics term for the most part and not applicable to sub 200 MPH motorcycles, the term streamlining is more appropriate for motorcycles.

Think of streamlining as more of a qualitative term related to making a shape smoother and more sleek, but aerodynamics is a quantitative science that applies mathematical equations and experimental measurements to improving the lift and drag performance of a shape.

Those George Foreman grill slits are solely cosmetic!!


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posted January 28, 2006 12:32 PM        
...Kawasaki makes use of its windtunnel...
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posted January 28, 2006 04:03 PM        
I thought that without the grills the hot engine would burn the driver at slow speeds
eg. you would be grilled :-)

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posted January 28, 2006 04:07 PM        
There isn't gonna be an ALL NEW HAYABUSA period! The government will step in and shut it all down with restrictions right after the ZX-14 has sold plenty.

If Suzuki builds a new Busa, it'll be in the 1400cc range and still only have like 200-210 hp at best. The Kawasaki ZX-14 is already at 200 hp, or within 5 hp of it, and a few mods will push it up near 210 hp easily. Besides that, if they build a new hayabusa 1400 something cc and 210hp, it'll be heavier than the ZX-14 already is so it'll still be slower. If Suzuki wants to equal or beat the ZX-14, they 'd better build 1500cc minimum.

Kawasaki's can make the same hp as the Suzuki's but with less cc's.


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posted January 28, 2006 04:51 PM        Edited By: VPN on 28 Jan 2006 19:28
The rumoured B-King was supposed to be 1500cc
What if the new Busa is a Turbo-Busa?!

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posted January 29, 2006 01:33 AM        
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What if the new Busa is a Turbo-Busa?!



It won't

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posted January 29, 2006 02:08 AM        
Then 1505cc maybe? Super-Busa!
Using only high-octane gasoline, dual spark-plugs per cylinder
only one titanium can, lighter, more torque/hp
I think that The Empire Strikes Back

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posted January 29, 2006 03:17 AM        
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Then 1505cc maybe? Super-Busa!
Using only high-octane gasoline, dual spark-plugs per cylinder
only one titanium can, lighter, more torque/hp
I think that The Empire Strikes Back



To be beaten again by 1460cc Kawa?



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posted January 29, 2006 04:30 AM        
Yes that is the secret ZX-14R model - oops!
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