zx14_1965
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posted September 28, 2006 08:21 PM
 Edited By: zx14_1965 on 28 Sep 2006 21:22
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I've seen your Yosh and I agree with many in saying that it is one of the best looking pipes I've seen on a 14.
Just a couple of points of "clarification" on my statements...
1. Never implied your were selling anything.
2. Showed what I thought was "respect" for your choice of modifications by saying, "I have no problem with..."
3. My point of contention was in your comparing two bikes that did NOT have similar mods and claiming the performance results would be similar. (RE: your last sentence in your earlier post)
4. No biggie on posting your charts to "my standards", 'cuz you don't owe me (or anybody else here) anything. I would suggest you take a floppy disk or blank CD for the dyno operator to store your runs on (call first and find out which media to bring). That way, you can analyze your runs at your leisure using Dynojet's viewer.
I'm not flaming you. I was just questioning your comparison made in your last sentence.
FYI - I don't even own a 14. I own a '04 10R and once owned a '00 12R (and various other bikes)
I'm clear on your intended message. 
Wish I had a 12R, one of the coolest Kawi bikes. 
Working on a ZX7R radiator mod on my ZRX1200 and ZX9 USD forks as well.
After I'm done with it, it'll be renamed "ZRX1200R/X7-9R
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zx14_1965
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posted September 28, 2006 08:24 PM
Edited By: zx14_1965 on 28 Sep 2006 21:25
Check it out
Moved over to the wild side....I'm not known for my patience......
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=26703&set_time=
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zx14_1965
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posted October 09, 2006 05:57 PM
TRE in Japan
Just FYI and giggles...A Japanese made TRE goes for $200 in Japan. They have two things up on the US TRE version.....cuts the 300KM speed limiter and retains the stock gear postion indicator. hmmmmm......I knew the Japanese were smarter.....
I told my friend about the flies out mod and after a chuckle, he said it's old news. Most bike shops figured out the "flies out" theory earlier this year. There's already a 212 RWHP ZZR1400 tuned by Yoshimura. Only internal mod was Yoshimura Stage 1 camshaft. with adj cam gear and of course a custom mapped PCIII, and Yosh 4-2-1 exhaust.
They should put a Brocks system which will yield them another 3-5 hp. 
He did mention there were quite a few 14s in the salvage yard. Kind of like the days when the RZ250, 350, 500 and RG500 came out on the market back in early 80s. Instant death for the unsuspecting.
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blackmore
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posted October 10, 2006 12:20 PM
Any more info of where this japanese TRE can be purchased?
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zx14_1965
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posted October 11, 2006 04:32 AM
In japan...however there is a company making this version in the US but it's not out yet.
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ninja14
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posted October 11, 2006 11:10 PM
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.........Only internal mod was Yoshimura Stage 1 camshaft. with adj cam gear ........
Only?..........that's a big deal Changing the cams ain't cheap - esp if you pay someone to do it right.........
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posted October 12, 2006 05:07 PM
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In japan...however there is a company making this version in the US but it's not out yet.
You can't get any cool new stuff here, it's only available in JAPAN 
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zx14_1965
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posted October 13, 2006 12:19 AM
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In japan...however there is a company making this version in the US but it's not out yet.
You can't get any cool new stuff here, it's only available in JAPAN
Don't be silly, I dig the 06 Corvette...you can't get that in Japan, well you can but you'll pay with your left and right balls to include 4 fingers and 3 toes.
Can't recall the name of the US company making this sepcific unit. I'll check my email for the response I received from them.
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zx14_1965
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posted October 13, 2006 12:22 AM
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.........Only internal mod was Yoshimura Stage 1 camshaft. with adj cam gear ........
Only?..........that's a big deal Changing the cams ain't cheap - esp if you pay someone to do it right.........
Any novice with the right tools can do a cam swap in less than two hours. Really isn't much to it. If you can't figure out the difference between metric and sae sockets then you'd be better off sending it off to a shop. Probably $180 -$250 for the job but depends on where you live. Shop rates vary.
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ninja14
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posted October 13, 2006 12:30 AM
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Any novice with the right tools can do a cam swap in less than two hours........
...only to find out the degreeing is fucked up........
So I agree AND disagree.
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zx14_1965
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posted October 14, 2006 07:01 PM
Edited By: zx14_1965 on 14 Oct 2006 20:03
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Any novice with the right tools can do a cam swap in less than two hours........
...only to find out the degreeing is fucked up........
So I agree AND disagree.
Give yerself more credit than that....I was very reluctant in tackling the degreeing until I did it myself one Saturday. The only special tool you need is a degree wheel kit....I borrowed my friends. Less than an hour to get the degree numbers set.and this after the 3rd time doing it. First go around took about 2hrs. Piece of cake...
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ninja14
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posted October 15, 2006 02:55 PM
Yeah - I can do it, but I have been a mechanic for 20yrs. I was kinda speaking for the "masses"
I don't know if I will go w/ a turbo or keep doing other mods..........
This thread was about the TRE - so on that........
I have gotten the same results myself.........w/o buying one - so I know there are real gains to be had......I recommend it ......
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zx14_1965
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posted October 15, 2006 07:02 PM
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Yeah - I can do it, but I have been a mechanic for 20yrs. I was kinda speaking for the "masses"
I don't know if I will go w/ a turbo or keep doing other mods..........
This thread was about the TRE - so on that........
I have gotten the same results myself.........w/o buying one - so I know there are real gains to be had......I recommend it ......
Cool, I'm giving one away
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ninja14
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posted October 16, 2006 08:42 AM
Which one do you have?
006 or 008?
I'll take it for more tests if you are giving it away............
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zx14_1965
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posted October 16, 2006 07:44 PM
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Which one do you have?
006 or 008?
I'll take it for more tests if you are giving it away............
I'll see what it does with a custom map tomorrow. Dyno with TRE and without to see if it's worth using it.
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Stu64
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posted October 18, 2006 02:43 AM
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In japan...however there is a company making this version in the US but it's not out yet.
You can't get any cool new stuff here, it's only available in JAPAN
Don't be silly, I dig the 06 Corvette...you can't get that in Japan, well you can but you'll pay with your left and right balls to include 4 fingers and 3 toes.
Can't recall the name of the US company making this sepcific unit. I'll check my email for the response I received from them.
Any luck finding the name of the company? anyone have the mame of the Japanese company?
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fastestbusaaround
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posted October 25, 2006 05:29 PM
I have 6 TRE's...on fer each gear...my bike goes faster now.
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ninja14
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posted November 01, 2006 02:44 AM
I can't get into gear - it shows N all the time :-)
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aewalfield
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posted November 11, 2006 04:53 PM
Hi there Brock , I have read your report on the zx 14 as I also have a zx14 black in colour but I have never raced on a track , but your hard work on the zx 14 was greatly appreciated, as I was also wondering how to get a little better performance out of my street bike , I now have a better understanding with reguards to having the flies out and just using the Tre , I am also researching for information about the G-pack as it is supposed to release the top end limiter , so that full speed can be obtained above the 300 km limit.l Any way thanks for the hard work and time on this project . Arnie BC Canada
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S A Kruz
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posted November 27, 2006 10:04 AM
I ran the TRE 008 with stock exhuast and no Power Commander for several months over the summer.. Big increase in low end torque with absolutely no negative side effects whatsoever!. We had Ryan Schnitz strap one on the dyno and the A/Fs were fine, same as a stock bike. Only reason I took it off was when I pulled the flies out and added a pipe, PC3 and a map from Mr. Ivan. I'm using his TRE 006a now and it works great as well! Very smooth power and no decel popping.
Cheers,
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fish_antlers
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posted November 27, 2006 10:08 AM
"'and I was paid to make this statement"
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S A Kruz
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posted November 27, 2006 10:51 AM
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"'and I was paid to make this statement"
Life time supply of TRE's!
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johns
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posted November 27, 2006 05:04 PM
Fish & the TRE
You know fish I am not sure if you are serious or just a smart ass (actually I know the answer to that question). You just cant give it up can you. The test you commisioned (thank you very much) with Brock proved the TRE actually did work on the ZX-14 thanks to the objectivity of Brock Davidson. Despite the smarmy introduction to Brocks original report written by this website you can't disguise the fact that the thing actually does what Ivan claims it does. Can't say I am paid by Ivan because I bought my pipe, power commander and lowering kits from Brock. I did buy a TRE from Ivan which constitutes less than 5% of the money I spent with Brock so far which in you're eyes probably qualifies me as paid off. I don't know Ivan personally but one thing I can say with confidence is you wouldn't make a pimple on his ass as a tuner or engineer.
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Hannula
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posted November 28, 2006 06:42 AM
Does anyone know if the G-Pack is useful or better in some respect than the Ivan's box?
http://direct.nikkoracing.com/boutique_us/fiche_produit.cfm?type=2&ref=GP-K156-OV&code_lg=lg_us&pag=1&num=1&tri=0&marq=0
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fish_antlers
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posted June 18, 2007 06:34 AM
bump
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