beansbaxter
Needs a life
Posts: 5911
|
posted October 22, 2005 01:28 AM
2006 Yamaha R6
   
|
NinjaNick
Needs a job
'08 ZX14 (Blue)
Posts: 4558
|
posted October 22, 2005 03:42 AM
White on bikes is BEAUTIFUL!
Forgive me but I think the new '06 WHITE BUSA is HOT! 
|
beansbaxter
Needs a life
Posts: 5911
|
posted October 22, 2005 04:26 AM
|
DANNY444
Parking Attendant
Posts: 15
|
posted October 28, 2005 02:11 PM
in germany the new r6 will cost 11.295euro...
a 2005 version of the kawa zx636, 0 miles/km, costs about 8500 euro...
if you have more than enough money take the yam... is such a guy on this planet???
i take the green bike ... it´s better anyway 
|
trenace
Needs a job
Posts: 3056
|
posted October 28, 2005 03:52 PM
 Edited By: trenace on 28 Oct 2005 17:00
That's a crazy price difference. Hard to believe many would go for the Yamaha at 2800 euro more (about $3500 more.)
Unless just entranced by Yamaha's "17,500 rpm" bullshit claim... BTW when is a magazine going to call them on it? Obviously they cannot do so, beyond pointing out the unlikeliness of it, before the bike gets into their hands, but once it does it will be interesting to see which magazines if any have the balls to expose the bullshit.
There are other bikes that show higher redlines on the tach than the ECU or limiter actually allows, for example the ZX-10R doesn't really spin 13,000 rpm, but I don't recall any company but Yamaha making front-cover news out of such claims or any kind of selling point, or any company being off by 1000 rpm or so which my expectation is the approximate extent of Yamaha's deceit.
But if they want to sell at that kind of price, I guess they figure they need amazing sizzle, and "17,500 rpm" sure would be amazing all right. Sadly, perhaps most customers will believe it, with the press being willing accomplices.
|
jimzx9r
Expert Class
Posts: 451
|
posted October 28, 2005 04:42 PM
17.5k rpm does not impress me in the least for a streetbike. That just means it's severely lacking in the lower, everyday use rpms.
|
DANNY444
Parking Attendant
Posts: 15
|
posted October 31, 2005 09:42 AM
oh i made a big mistake... the price will be only 11.195euros...
muuuuuuch more cheaper!!!! 
|
k bryant
Needs a job
Sponsor
Posts: 2911
|
posted November 01, 2005 07:34 PM
Edited By: k bryant on 1 Nov 2005 19:34
Anything close to 17.5k rpm is impressive for a streetbike engine. As soon as I get one on the dyno, I'll let you know what the "actual" rpm is. 
|
trenace
Needs a job
Posts: 3056
|
posted November 01, 2005 08:46 PM
That will be great info! Which very possibly the magazines won't dare publish!
That's the absurd thing about this bit of deception (as I very strongly expect it to be but is subject to test)... the TRUE figure is almost certainly plenty impressive enough in its own right, no need for the untruth at all. If the redline is really 16,500 I would be impressed by that, and given the stroke of the motor that is an achievable but impressive figure. But apparently Yamaha thought that wouldn't scream from the magazine cover headlines the way 17,500 does.
|
DANNY444
Parking Attendant
Posts: 15
|
posted November 02, 2005 03:41 AM
think of the first r6-version in 1999? ... yamaha promised 120hp ... *hahahahaha*
good joke ! 
|
trenace
Needs a job
Posts: 3056
|
posted November 02, 2005 01:26 PM
Edited By: trenace on 2 Nov 2005 13:30
Oh, now it turns out that "17,500 rpm" isn't enough hype!
Now it's "18,000!"
The latest issue of MCN goes on and on about it, definitely making a selling point of it, also with a sidebar article in which the high redline is used to justify the high price, the writer going on about how he's in an exclusive club even Rossi isn't in because the R6 he rode, with that "18,000 rpm" limiter, revs faster than Rossi's M1, etc.
I am serious, the guy was tossing Yamaha's salad so bad as to actually say he was in club Rossi couldn't brag about being in, due to having ridden this bike with its (according to the tach and alleged by Yamaha) "18,000 rpm" limiter.
So "17,500 rpm" wasn't enough hype, now it's "18,000 rpm."
Only problem is, even the "17,500" figure was higher piston speeds than what I've seen published for the MotoGP bikes. I do not find it credible that Yamaha can put out a street bike, with street durability, with higher piston speeds and accelerations than they are able to do for their MotoGP bike which is built to last for much shorter periods. It's way easier to believe that the executives ordered the engineers to make the tach read 1000 rpm or more falsely high (perhaps justifying it in their own minds by other manufacturers having made tachs that read a few hundred rpm high, though those manufacturers didn't make big if any sales points out of it.)
But the magazines are eating it right up.
And yup, according to MCN Yamaha is indeed jacking the price way up, and using the claimed-but my-bet-is-fraudulent rpm figures to justify the record high price.
|
|
|
HOME
NEW TOPIC