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posted February 20, 2006 07:35 AM
 Edited By: kz2zx on 20 Feb 2006 07:41
Change in my 10R's status
Well, the big day, the day I took the 10R to the track, occurred.
My beautiful streetbike and I had been blasting the canyons in 2004. We'd put 9200 or so miles down together.
For 2005, I discovered racing. My 10R got 500 more miles the entire year of 2005, my 636 got all the attention.
Late December 2005, I was in the canyons with a buddy, and afterwards, at my breakfast table, discussing the ride. I'd mentioned that I took one corner at about 12,500 RPM. My wife dropped the coffee pot and said "That's, what, 100 MPH, Asshole?" Busted...
So I turned in the plates.
I took it to the track this weekend, Arroyo Seco, Deming, NM.
I have some observations:
1. Slipper clutches still step out the rear when you bang a downshift into first at 110 MPH.
2. The bike is perfectly geared for a tight technical track. Just don't ever expect to shift past third, and that only for the final seconds of the big straight...
3. What you may think is a great suspension/geometry setup for the canyons sucks ass for the racetrack.
4. Melting Pilot Power fronts by pushing is not a good way to warm your tires.
4a. The 10R dirt-tracks just fine.
5. If you're used to entering a corner at 123 MPH on a 6R, you need to reacclimate to entering that corner at 140 MPH on a 10R. New braking markers are suggested.
5a. The 10R dirt-tracks just fine.
6. The 10R, with a PR-C front and 4mm ridehight taken back out from the front, handles just like my 636.
7. Once I got the cornerspeeds up, if I saw you on the track in front of me (and you hadn't passed me), I passed you within one lap.
I will now be racing this bike. I'm slightly faster on it than on my 636.
And Hell's Dark Lord does OK on the track, too.
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posted February 20, 2006 07:39 AM
A clarification: I'll race this bike as my second bike, I'm not chasing any championships with this one. I think I will be bringing it to Buttonwillow for March's AFM round, if I can get a shock and the requisite safetywiring and crap done in time.
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posted February 20, 2006 09:26 AM
Sounds like things went better after ya ditchedthe dirt track setup 
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posted February 20, 2006 04:07 PM
lol...good to meet ya Dave.....was a treat running around the track with ya.....I am glad I wont be running any races against ya this year...maybe when I get back from iraq.....I have to say its a good looking 10 ya got there...wish I had one, oh wait, i do.....lol
I just picked up a set of Pirelli Slicks from Ivan to run in April. So I need to play with the suspension to get it right....and I need a set of rearsets, I am tired of finding nuetral in the horseshoe....lol
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posted February 20, 2006 06:38 PM
You should be a LOT faster at Buttonwillow on the 10 and a good shock makes a huge impact on the 04. Well tuned slipper clutches do not step out the rear on downshifts. As delivered the 04 needs some tweaking. I understand the trick is to start cutting fingers off the diaphragm springs that control slippage until you're happy. Perhaps someone with some inside info can comment on this. Hint hint.
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posted February 20, 2006 09:10 PM
before i cut anything from the slipper clutch, I woudl look into the shims that KHI sells for them that adjust the slipper function of the clutch...
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posted February 20, 2006 10:40 PM
I've been told the factory race team lops fingers off. Like maybe half of them. Not sure the exact details. Somebody knows for sure.
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posted February 21, 2006 06:42 AM
i still believe that using a $2 shim is far more desireable than cutting fingers off the clutch that can not be put back on.....if the shim doesnt work you are out $2....if cutting the fingers off doesnt work how much are you out for a new one???
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posted February 21, 2006 08:31 AM
Or, you could just slip the clutch...
I think I'll leave the internals alone. I know the slipper is doing good things elsewhere on the track.
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posted February 21, 2006 09:18 AM
Like pain, slipper is good. Extreme slipper is extremely good. What kinda times you guys get?
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posted February 21, 2006 12:31 PM
1:17's for me with the bike setup like it was. Dunno about HDL.
I'll need to get into the 1:15's with this bike to have a shot at a win in AM ULSS at Arroyo. I expect to start racing the 10R mid-season there, as I plan on chasing the HWSB championship with the 636 first.
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posted February 21, 2006 06:10 PM
I was getting 1:18's with the stock set up, I think with some suspension tweaking and some new brake pads I could get into the low 17's or maybe high 16's which I think will be competitive in the beginner class....
kinda been thinking about seeing if I could find a good 600 for cheap and run it.....its expensive to run 1 bike, let alone 2.....
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posted February 21, 2006 06:16 PM
quote:
1:17's for me with the bike setup like it was. Dunno about HDL.
I'll need to get into the 1:15's with this bike to have a shot at a win in AM ULSS at Arroyo. I expect to start racing the 10R mid-season there, as I plan on chasing the HWSB championship with the 636 first.
Track Pics please!!!
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posted February 21, 2006 06:34 PM
Pics of the track:
There were some pics of me on the track that weekend, too, take a while for me to dig them out of the 1000's of pics taken.
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posted February 21, 2006 06:44 PM
Edited By: kz2zx on 21 Feb 2006 18:47
Okay, me in turn 8 on that map, going clockwise:
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posted February 21, 2006 08:18 PM
Hey Dave you have the links to the photographers web page...I know there were 2 or 3 out there this weekend...
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posted February 21, 2006 08:50 PM
http://hdvideo.smugmug.com/gallery/1218800/1
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posted February 21, 2006 09:31 PM
Whoa! That track looks like a hoot. Roadtrip!
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posted February 22, 2006 04:29 AM
That track is a hoot Bovine....the map doesnt do it justice....its VERY technical.....only track I have ever riden tha tis anywhere near as technical is Nashville.....
http://hdvideo.smugmug.com/gallery/1218800/1 asssit
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posted February 22, 2006 04:31 AM
Edited By: Hells Dark Lord on 22 Feb 2006 04:32
now that is a good looking biatchhhhhhh
http://hdvideo.smugmug.com/gallery/1218800/3/57039572/Medium
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