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rc51eviltwin


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posted December 23, 2005 10:33 AM        
oil filter

ok so this is my first oil change on my 10.the question is,is there a trick as to getiing the filter out without getting all the over the headers?sorry i know its a stupid question but damn what a screwed up design.
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fattkaw


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posted December 23, 2005 11:12 AM        
aluminium foil folded to shield header.
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ikezixxer


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posted December 23, 2005 11:48 AM        
does it on many bikes, not just the 10r, will burn away after a few minutes of heavy riding...doesn't make a difference in anything at all.
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CrotchRocket


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posted December 23, 2005 03:18 PM        
Maybe a screwed up design for changing the oil filter...But I will gladly put up with that to have the pipe the lowest point of the bike!!!
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rc51eviltwin


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posted December 23, 2005 06:27 PM        
quote:
Maybe a screwed up design for changing the oil filter...But I will gladly put up with that to have the pipe the lowest point of the bike!!!

yeah i guess you are right.my ZX12 or my RC51 both have the filter out of the way but get in the way of other things...
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2001 RC51>>sold
1988 FLSTC>>sold
2004 ZX10>>sold
'07 GSXR 1000
"05 CBR 1000
'89 NSR 250
'05 metrakit
'03 SV 650
'01 FLTRI
'07 custom hardtail

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Lawnmower Man


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posted August 02, 2006 10:24 PM        
Overtorqued oil filter

The idiot that assembled my bike must have put on the filter with like 200 lb.-ft. of torque, because it's impossible to get off. Must be a trick to make you take it to the shop. I used one of those end-cap wrenches that fits a socket driver, and the filter is so tight the driver skips inside the wrench! So I got a different kind of filter wrench with claws, and I still can't get the dang thing off! Any suggestions?

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bovinespongiformencephalo


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posted August 02, 2006 11:04 PM        
Pound a long screwdriver through it or get a set of Crescent oil filter pliers. You are wanting for bite and leverage. Promise me this though: Stop assuming the difficulty of removing a fastener, oil filter, whatever, is only related to the torque used to install it. Your oil filter is on a very large threaded spigot, and has a rubber gasket with a significant surface area in contact with the engine case. It would be a fucking miracle if it was NOT a hairy backed lesbian bitch to get off. Threadlocking agents, corrosion, middle east tensions, friction, inertia... many, many factors can hang up a fastener. Initial torque is but one of them.
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Gunner


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posted August 03, 2006 07:49 AM        
A set of oil filter plyers will get in there and twist it loose. They'll fit between the header tubes and allow you to work small tiny bites at a time till it's loose. Good Luck! You can always take the deader pipe off if it's totally screwed.
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tigger


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posted August 03, 2006 10:29 AM        
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The idiot that assembled my bike must have put on the filter with like 200 lb.-ft. of torque, because it's impossible to get off. Must be a trick to make you take it to the shop. I used one of those end-cap wrenches that fits a socket driver, and the filter is so tight the driver skips inside the wrench! So I got a different kind of filter wrench with claws, and I still can't get the dang thing off! Any suggestions?
When you use the claw type filter wrench make sure to grasp as close as you can to the base, or the contact point between the filter and the engine. If you're doing the screw driver deal, make sure not to hit the oil filter thread as you hammer in the screw driver.....

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lawnmower man


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posted August 05, 2006 05:55 PM        
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When you use the claw type filter wrench make sure to grasp as close as you can to the base, or the contact point between the filter and the engine. If you're doing the screw driver deal, make sure not to hit the oil filter thread as you hammer in the screw driver.....

Yeah, I resorted to the screwdriver method, which made me nervous because I didn't know how long the filter thread was. But I made sure to nail it through the outermost part of the filter, and after taking it off, I was relieved to see that I had quite a bit of clearance. The claw wrench was helpful in helping remove the filter after I loosened it, since the end-cap wouldn't grip the ripped-up filter. I noticed that whoever mounted the original filter tightened it so hard there were major scuffs on part of the mounting bracket. Is that normal? Seems like excessive force to me.

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tigger


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posted August 05, 2006 10:16 PM        
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When you use the claw type filter wrench make sure to grasp as close as you can to the base, or the contact point between the filter and the engine. If you're doing the screw driver deal, make sure not to hit the oil filter thread as you hammer in the screw driver.....

Yeah, I resorted to the screwdriver method, which made me nervous because I didn't know how long the filter thread was. But I made sure to nail it through the outermost part of the filter, and after taking it off, I was relieved to see that I had quite a bit of clearance. The claw wrench was helpful in helping remove the filter after I loosened it, since the end-cap wouldn't grip the ripped-up filter. I noticed that whoever mounted the original filter tightened it so hard there were major scuffs on part of the mounting bracket. Is that normal? Seems like excessive force to me.

Its not really normal. Just don't worry about it as long as its not leaking. Save you some money next time. I use Purolator PureOne 14642. This filter is far better than oem and only cost $6 bucks. Its also the same filter used for your RC51.

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Simple Simon


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posted August 06, 2006 06:03 AM        
If you want a filter that is easier to take off then get a K&N oil filter. They have a "nut" welded on the end of the filter which makes removal a breeze. Just use 17mm wrench.
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philmy3rdleg


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posted August 06, 2006 09:58 AM        
Also the K&N nut has a hole through it. Easy saftey wiring for the lazy racer.
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tigger


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posted August 09, 2006 08:00 AM        
K & N is over priced! I use Purolator Pure One PL14642. Its one of the best filters out there, I have already done the research for you. And you know what? it cost 6 bucks at Pepboys!!! lol
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