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crispin

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posted October 27, 2004 07:58 AM

The R1's put out more power

This kills me.

Like most of you I bought my bike because it was sussposed to be the highest HP and lightest bike for 04.

At my local shop I have had my bike dyno'd twice.

I have a PC3 and Micron Pipe I got to 158.5 hp

The R1's are kiling that.

Stock

Class
Name
Bike
HP
Date

Big Bore - 1001cc +
Kio L.
ZX12R
176.1
04-17-04

One Liter - 800cc +
Chet
R1
165.1
07-14-04

Middle - 1000cc Twin - 750cc +
Kevin V.
TLR1000
125.4
07-21-04

600 - 600cc +
Jason
ZX6R-636
109.1
01-11-04

Standard - Less than 600cc
Patti W.
CB-1
54.7
01-11-04

Look at the R1's #'s . He has top in our class right now. He runs a full Akra pipe and programing, thats it.

165!! Almost 7 hp over my best. I have yet to see any 10's put down the 165 that was claimed by every magazine.

I am going to the dyno shoot out on race gas on Dec 12th and see what that does. But I still don't think I will see much over 160.

How else has seen both R1's and 10's on the same dyno. Which one puts out more power?

I was back and forth between the R and the 10

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swft

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posted October 27, 2004 08:09 AM

So sell your 10R and buy an R1 if someone else's dyno chart means that much to you.

k bryant

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posted October 27, 2004 08:27 AM

I've tested many back to back, on the same dyno. Box stock here are the figures:

04 - R1's - average a low of 145 - high of 148
04 - ZX10's - average a low of 140 - high of 160 (most in the 145 - 150 range)

Suffice to say, they are both very close stock. The 10 seems to respond better to exhaust changes. With Slip-Ons, the R1 is gaining 2 -3 hp. The 10 is gaining 4 - 6 in most cases. This is with no mapping changes. But I'm sure other dyno's may tell a different story and should only be used for very general comparisions.

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extremelean

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posted October 27, 2004 09:16 AM

crispin......have you had your valves adjusted?? throttle bodies syncronized??

I would think that maybe the guy with the R1 has his machine in a high state of tune....just like you can do.

try a tune up.....it will probably net you some more ponies

good luck

swft

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posted October 27, 2004 09:38 AM

Crispin - I'll buy your low-power 10R off of you for forty bucks, ok?

Michael Lee

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posted October 27, 2004 12:10 PM

Sheezt, I'll give ya $45.00

oldkawboy

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posted October 27, 2004 12:42 PM

Crispin,
What did the chart look like between the two all the way through, not just peak? What about torque?
Geez.....If I had a 700hp Turbo Porsche, I wouldn't care what my bike made!
Dan

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posted October 27, 2004 01:01 PM

The R1 has a wicked drop in the mid-range. The 10 has one of the nicest graphs around.

beansbaxter

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posted October 27, 2004 03:25 PM

$50 and I'll pay for shipping!

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zeta xray

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posted October 27, 2004 04:24 PM

What fuel are you using? What fuel was the R1 using? If he was using some of the exotic fuels and you weren't, that could be the difference.

k bryant

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posted October 27, 2004 05:04 PM

But that would be cheating..... Nobody does that.....

boman

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posted October 27, 2004 05:32 PM

7 more horsepower than Crispins bike, I'm not sure its worth it but I will give you 75.00 for it,and guide you on a BASS fishing trip on SAM RAYBURN Reservoir. Now you cant beat that with a stick !
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Michael Lee

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posted October 27, 2004 05:55 PM

I'm out . . . . too rich for me, sorry

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posted October 27, 2004 07:37 PM

$85.00
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swft

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posted October 27, 2004 07:46 PM

Ok, ok...A hunnert bucks! But that's my top offer!

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posted October 27, 2004 10:47 PM

I'm out - its all yours swft
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frEEk

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posted October 28, 2004 12:57 AM

2 bits!

lzbrown

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posted October 28, 2004 04:57 AM

I think your compairing apples or oranges. And he has a full pipe so of coarse he's gonna have more top end then you. I've seen two different dyno's of zx-10's that have full exhaust system makin the exact same power. Get a full pipe or sell your bike for $51

k bryant

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posted October 28, 2004 08:07 AM

Get your facts straight..... The bidding is at $100.

SPROCKET

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posted October 28, 2004 08:17 AM

$100.01 and please, nobody outbid me.

Get some velocity stacks, bmc filter and run race fuel if you're that worried about RWHP. Full exhaust, more air in your tire, a different map would all help. Ask mother nature for perfect conditions. What were the conditions when the R1 was dynoed?
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zx9rmal

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posted October 28, 2004 08:34 AM

Install an Arata or Akro full system and you should have 165hp.
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salsa1

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posted October 28, 2004 09:22 AM

Get a the test results from sports rider and you will have 164 hp...thats all stock too ....haha. Life is a vicious circle at times..

mmmm...

$100.23!! do you accept third party checks??.
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