posted June 02, 2004 05:39 PM
Now we're getting somewhere fellas. So nelson 10r, do you have the schematic or should I e-mail ya one?
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posted June 02, 2004 06:22 PM
12RPilot, I ask the same thing what about kaw off-road ecu? I know a guy that got one and he said he only gain 1hp on mapping versus pc111. But he also said he didn't know about top end limits because he is down -2 on front gearing
posted June 02, 2004 07:56 PM
Edited By: Dynosoar on 2 Jun 2004 21:09
I was running the 10R at Maxton last weekend and can only say that ours hits the rev-limiter at the same indicated RPM in both 5th and 6th with stock gearing. I have repeated this on the dyno and see no additional speed limiter (with dyno tyre deflection, the 10R only runs between 182 and 183mph on the limiter). However - I won't be at all surprised to find one when we gear for more than 186mph (300kph). Then we'll just have to get round it same as always and you all seem to have figured that out .
FYI The 182mph pass was made by a lightweight guest rider on the limiter in 6th (my fat ass could only manage 181). First being clear that there is no implied criticism of ECTA or any arguement with the official record speed awarded, there were some problems with the timing lights this weekend and the old hands believe the real speeds were @ 3-4 mph faster. This would match well with published performance figures and typical dyno to road apparent gearing discrepancy.
Getting to the point - I can't detect a speed limiter yet, but we are right on the edge of where we expect one will start to show as soon as we gear taller. Guess the other point is that this thing F*&%ing rips - 180+mph in a standing mile in poor air! The bike only had 150 miles of gentle dyno break-in the night before and made 151rwhp SAE, the lowest of the 10Rs I have tested (best was 153).
MUCH THANKS TO DOUG MEYER AND MUZZYS FOR RUSHING US A DAMPER TO PASS MAXTON TECH AND MAKE THIS POSSIBLE
NPJ
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p.s. ZX-10R dyno trick for you - if you direct a cooling blower into the ram air duct, you will pick up 1-2hp. This is NOT ram-air (the velocity is far too low) but instead suggests that the 10 suffers some intake duct flow separation when asked to suck all its own air with no forward speed - try it!
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posted June 03, 2004 12:21 PM
Edited By: 12RPilot on 3 Jun 2004 13:23
I would still like to see a homemade gear position indicator if any of you ee-lec-tronics types could help us out. I built and gave away about a half dozen of 'em for the 12, but I didn't design it.
posted June 05, 2004 02:20 PM
bovinespongiformencephalo , best to get your OWN map made . Different climate , bike machining tolerances and so on and so on .
posted June 05, 2004 05:03 PM
Drowland, Is there acess to the oil filter and drain plug with that pipe?
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posted June 05, 2004 07:01 PM
Alright Swft actually lately I hate the world! Its fucking work. Hopefully I be better soon got me some effexor XR. So now I can sit it shit and smile.
posted June 05, 2004 08:44 PM
Edited By: kz2zx on 5 Jun 2004 21:53
OK, I just looked at the Gear Indicator link posted above.
This won't work. What is needed is an easy way to determine if the voltage on Wire 2 is a particular value (within a range).
Wire 3 appears to be there to source the voltage and it's resistor is to drop the output signal from the switch into the CMOS range.
Wire 1 is used only to indicate neutral when it's voltage is 0 (ground). This is probably to tell the ECU to let the bike run when the kickstand is down.
The easy way to do this is to use resistors of the same values as in the switch and the same input voltage, and use AND gates or comparators to determine the gear. Doing this, it's probably best to use a 7-segment driver as well rather than a complicated network of segment circuits.
I have no EDA tools on my home computer. Someone want to draw this up?
posted June 05, 2004 10:40 PM
Edited By: andy on 5 Jun 2004 23:45
The speedohealer website: http://www.speedohealer.com/eng/intro.htm
Under the title, "What do you gain with speedohealer?" claims one of the benefits of their product is that "the top speed won't be restricted by factory speed limiter".
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