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crazyman1


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posted April 13, 2004 07:57 PM        
zx 10 vs busa finally.

well got to run 2 busa's tonight and my old 02 gixxer 1000 that has full serpeant micron exhaust,short staks,and pc3r. The busa has full yosh system with pc3r, and the other busa was stock. We did plenty of runs back to back of all bikes with the same riders.

We all drag race together on the track for years now and couldnt wait to get the 10r out and see what shes got. We used me and my racing buddy to do back to back runs on each bike since we weigh the same. First of my zx 10r has 350 miles ONLY on it when i let it loose tonight. We ran my zx 10r against his modded busa with full yosh system and pc3r first.

5 diffrent runs 3 starting from second gear at 55 to take out any wheelie factor. All 3 runs produced the exact same thing, no one could budge a bit. It was a dead even as you could get with me pulling maybe half to one bike length at the very most up to 170. starting from first he could slightly gain a bike length or 2 on me since but we ended right back up almost totally dead even all the way to 170 again every time.

Next was the stock busa using me and my same buddy again. I could give him a jump and still pass him no problem all 5 times, wasnt close at all. Swithched riders with the owner this time riding the stock busa and same results.

Next up my old gixxer with my racing buddy again on my old gixxer which has a micron full serpeant system, pc3r, and short staks. Again unreal how close it was, he got me by about 1 bike length at one point in 3rd and we stayed even the rest of the way. same result almost each time with him staying even or pulling me by 1 bike lenth in third. We switched bikes and i was riding my old gixxer and he was riding mine. very very even, with me pulling maybe a half bike length on my bone stock 10r with around 350 miles on the clock and my old gixxer with 2900. The modded busa had 2200 miles and the stocker 3100.

Indeed we were very impressed with the 10r, was sick of hearing dyno charts and we got real world results comparing my old bike and the busa's. The 10r is quite a bit faster than the stock gixxer 1000 and stock busa. Now also my bike will gain more hp as it is not even broke in yet. Here are real world results not this dyno crap. The 10r has about 7-10 hp more than my old 02 gixxer stock so the results were about right being almost dead even with him having all the goodies on it. This thing really rips, I thought the modded busa would pull me since i was stock but never ever did once even switching riders. Wow!!!!!!

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ninjajoe


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posted April 13, 2004 08:07 PM        
Good post.
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swft


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posted April 13, 2004 08:07 PM        
Hey thanks man, sounds like you had fun!
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crazyman1


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posted April 13, 2004 08:12 PM        
It was a great time, hell we live for this shit!!!!!!!!!!
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posted April 13, 2004 08:28 PM        
That's what I like to hear! great post and looking forward to picking mine up next week!
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kzz1


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posted April 13, 2004 08:29 PM        
Cool! Now do it from a stand still or at the dragstrip and I bet the results will be very different.
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posted April 13, 2004 08:41 PM        
If you are so interested Ken, why don't you?
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kzz1


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posted April 13, 2004 08:53 PM        
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If you are so interested Ken, why don't you?

Why second gear roll-on? That's not a test...Anyone can do that! If you want to gauge a bike performance do it from a stand still with equal rider abilities.

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posted April 13, 2004 09:46 PM        
Going from second gear allows you to measure power output w/o adding variables like wheelies, rider skill etc.
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crazyman1


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posted April 13, 2004 10:12 PM        
quote:
Going from second gear allows you to measure power output w/o adding variables like wheelies, rider skill etc.


EXACTLY RIGHT !!! dont worry we will be taking them to the dragstrip, hell we basically live there. Yes the 10r is much harder to keep down, but thats expected. The object of today was comparing motors, that question was answered!!!!!

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matt sterbator


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posted April 13, 2004 10:26 PM        
2nd gear roll on eliminates the rider factor, and puts it more on the bike.
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zxhoya


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posted April 13, 2004 10:56 PM        
"Now also my bike will gain more hp as it is not even broke in yet."

it is now.
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crazyman1


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posted April 13, 2004 11:14 PM        
quote:
"Now also my bike will gain more hp as it is not even broke in yet."

it is now.


haaaaaaaaaaa, funny we made that remark after we stopped to get gas.

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tn1361


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posted April 14, 2004 04:05 AM        
Great report. The 10 is probably going to beat about anything up to about 170 mph once it is piped and a power commander is installed. After 170 mph, aerodynamics will come into play where the 12 and busa will probably be superior.
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Michael Lee


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posted April 14, 2004 05:33 AM        
thanks for the post
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UGADAWG


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posted April 14, 2004 07:28 AM        
Wow, and if you are racing past 170? Just livin on the edge!
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deathpulse


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posted April 14, 2004 10:01 PM        
no doubt - I can count the number of times I've been over 170 on one hand!!! SCARY!!
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crazyman1


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posted April 14, 2004 11:39 PM        
All depends where your riding and where you live. Im in the country where 170 is visited quite often for very brief moments.
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busaveloce


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posted April 15, 2004 05:05 AM        
...this must be an excerpt of a kwakasaki wet dreamer...but how rude would i be to take away a mans fantasy...it may be all he has...



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busaveloce


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posted April 15, 2004 05:08 AM        
...in my country life begins at 170
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close2death


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posted April 15, 2004 06:32 AM        
Life may begin at 170 but it ends faster too, I'm not saying I never like to push it up to those speeds....but here in the states, and especially the northeast the roads aren't safe for it
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Hawkman


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posted April 15, 2004 10:35 AM        
We are talking speedo indicated 170, right? Speedo indicated means you're doing what...156mph. I run the 12 over that all the time. It's when it gets to 200 that life gets interesting. 200 = 180mph on my gps. :-O
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whitesands26


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posted April 15, 2004 11:23 AM        
Hey that was a good post....It's good to see a real side by side comparison like that...

Dang...Outrunning a busa and over 100lbs lighter too....Sounds pretty good!

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matt sterbator


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posted April 15, 2004 11:53 AM        
It's been posted on LAB and SH.org

Be prepared, lol.
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Jake76


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posted April 15, 2004 05:10 PM        
Great write up Crazyman1.

Crazyman1, are you in Wisconsin??? If so, where??
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