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posted February 05, 2004 06:25 AM
one headlite
Front cover of motocycist mag, the 10r has only one working headlite at low beem,
   
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posted February 05, 2004 06:53 AM
That's how all the bikes work these days.
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posted February 05, 2004 09:47 AM
 Edited By: Ronis on 5 Feb 2004 09:48
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That's how all the bikes work these days.
??? I don't think so. It would be f..king ugly!! 
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posted February 05, 2004 10:21 AM
...if that's true, I hope somebody fiugures out how to make both low beams light up...CONSPICUITY, PEOPLE...LET'S HAVE SOME ILLUMINATED CONSPICUITY FOR THE SAFETY OF SPORTBIKERS AND ONCOMING TRAFFIC...shit-can the wannabe 'endurance racer' look...that's so freekin' passe'...these are street bikes, dammit!...c'mon, motorcycle manufacturers who are doing this....get it right....
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posted February 05, 2004 10:40 AM
My friend has Yamaha Thunderace '97. It has only 1 bulb working on low beam. Damn, it looks terrible. Everyday someone tell my friend to change the "dead" bulb.
YZF-R1 doesn't have this shitty option, so I can't believe that KAWA did it...
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posted February 05, 2004 12:06 PM
Edited By: Ronis on 5 Feb 2004 12:07
Ok, here's the truth:
http://www.motorfreaks.nl/index.php?mod=dl&action=browse&cat=13
Check both videos CBR1000RR and ZX-10R to see lights!
It seems that KAWA have 'em in the right way, Honda - no way.
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posted February 05, 2004 01:47 PM
6RR and the 636 are the same way......single headlight on is what the masses wanted...soo most of the OEM's gave them what they wanted.
I think the Z1000 is the same way.
My personal opinion......I like having 2 lights on all the time.....and, I run with High beams on during the day.
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posted February 05, 2004 01:55 PM
who the hell would "want" only one light?!? and how did people that stupid ever survive long enough to become "masses"? i guess cause the cool hondas used 1 headlight they decided ALL bikes need one headlight to be cool.  uke:
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posted February 05, 2004 02:12 PM
Come-on now... It does look kinda cool.
XL - So you're the dweeb who runs around like that all the time! Even when I'm riding and in front of guys with H-beams on all the time, it's annoying.... JMO - They should only be used when you feel the most vunerible. Ripping around in the mountains and/or heavy traffic, and/or passing, etc.. But leaving them on all the time just pisses people off. I think there was a pretty good article on this in Motorcyclist or Sportbike last year. Their opinion I believe was similar to mine. But it is just an opinion.
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posted February 05, 2004 02:38 PM
welll.......If you talk to most cops......they will probably tell you that they run with High beams on too......Higher visibility.....thats what I'm looking for.
I find that I am seen less with my low on, thats over a course of about 20 years of observation....sorry if it annoys other people, but #1 comes first when Im on 2 wheels.
Be seen or get run over......sorry boys and girls.....just my opinion.
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posted February 05, 2004 02:41 PM
We don't supress opinions. Because like a-holes.... well you know the rest. Oh, and MO is over 30 years of experience. So there!
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posted February 05, 2004 02:45 PM
Settle down beavis.........lmao
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posted February 05, 2004 03:04 PM
I find that tying a pair of cats together by the tail and slinging them over my shoulder is one of the best ways to attract attention while riding on the street. However, they tend to bounce off the taxicabs during passing, so I don't do it too often. 
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posted February 05, 2004 03:43 PM
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posted February 05, 2004 04:14 PM
cool....I'll see ya then
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posted February 05, 2004 05:32 PM
On the cover of motorcyclist the zx10r only has one headlight on but thats exactly how it's suppose to work. What gets me is their new modification of having the exhaust cannister on the left side of the bike. OOOOOppps, looks like a photo blunder.
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posted February 05, 2004 07:13 PM
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6RR and the 636 are the same way......single headlight on is what the masses wanted...soo most of the OEM's gave them what they wanted.
I think the Z1000 is the same way.
My personal opinion......I like having 2 lights on all the time.....and, I run with High beams on during the day.
Xtremelean, what "masses"? I do not know anyone who only wants one low beam on. BTW. I thought I had seen somewhere that the ZX10 only has one light on high beam also. Is that true? I think the quote was that it changes sides from low to hi beam.
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posted February 06, 2004 04:24 PM
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Come-on now... It does look kinda cool.
XL - So you're the dweeb who runs around like that all the time! Even when I'm riding and in front of guys with H-beams on all the time, it's annoying.... JMO - They should only be used when you feel the most vunerible. Ripping around in the mountains and/or heavy traffic, and/or passing, etc.. But leaving them on all the time just pisses people off. I think there was a pretty good article on this in Motorcyclist or Sportbike last year. Their opinion I believe was similar to mine. But it is just an opinion.
Not ta piss on anyones parade here but yer "use" of high beams time that is acceptable pretty much defines the usual commute to and from work - in SoCal at least.
Consider me guilty and yes I've been ticketed for that before.
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posted February 06, 2004 09:19 PM
20 years ago... 30 years ago.... Sheeez... we're not counting back in the days of candles as headlights. A 2 cell Maglite would run down the charging systems on those lame 6V bikes (like my ol' 250 XL S w/ the 23" front tire). My 35w bulb on my '90 KDX is brighter then those things were.
All kidding aside, count me in that group that runs high beams during all daylight riding. That even applied when I ran LP 55/100w bulbs in my '97 7R (with an occasional set of 90/130w) and the PIAA Super Whites in my 12R. Never got pulled over, but than again, I do live in Arkansas. We just got electricity a few years ago.
On the other hand, maybe KB's right. Over the past 6 years or so, I've just run high beams on the twisties. Since that's all I ride 95% of the time. All 95%, 130,000+ miles over the past six years.... of the time.
Oh well then. Never mind.
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posted February 07, 2004 06:47 AM
As far as i can remmember dual working headlites high or low beam was kawis trade mark and that is what the masses wanted,i have seen numerus people walk in to the shop and ask how can they make there cbrs and gixxers headlites work at low beam.
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posted February 08, 2004 09:30 AM
My Z1000 uses one lens on low, both on high.
BUT each bulb only has one filament, so on hi beam what is really on is one low beam and one high beam. It uses H-7 bulbs on both sides, which are single filament bulbs.
One of my winter projects is to try H-4 bulbs in both sides, but as of now I have not came across a pair of sockets from a ZX12R ZX9R,ZX7R,or similiar to wire up and try.
My concern is that each reflector is set at a specific angle and having the dual filament bulb won't accomplish a dual low beam and dual hi beam focus.
If anyone have the harness I need to test this out please email me.
I will get the answers.
BTW, Ducati used a single bulb on the 916 because it had a punny charging system. It would run the battery down just driving around town on hi beam. I think that the Japs followed just as they did with the under tail exhaust.
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posted February 08, 2004 11:22 AM
Ozzy - all good point. I would bet that the reflectors are different. And using one light is less of an impact on the charging system, which is loaded pretty good running the FI.
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posted February 08, 2004 01:01 PM
Edited By: k bryant on 8 Feb 2004 13:02
Maybe one point I add; Where I ride, when I ride, and especially how I ride(extremely brisk pace.....), I don't like drawing anymore attention to myself than necessary. Full leathers & pucks, Toes always on the pegs, Blazing stars & stripes eagle helmet, etc. I'm a cop magnet (ya know, kinda like a chick magnet...). Every waking moment I ride, I am in complete defensive mode. So I just personally don't believe in the hi-beams on approach at all times in making a big difference in keeping me safe(r).
Though a question for you brainiacts out there - Bulb life, alternator life, battery life; would it not be less running beams a blazin all the time???
Aren't opinions great?
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posted February 08, 2004 01:24 PM
Edited By: worm~hole on 8 Feb 2004 13:25
...stilll TWO lowbeams is better than ONE lowbeam...two lowbeams ON have been around around since two headlight systems have been around...I don't think there's any quantifiable reason to think that two lowbeam lights ON will make you a 'better' magnet than a single low beam ON...and I think two lowbeams ON on a twisty road with oncoming traffic will light up the road ahead of you better, will it not?...if anything, cops who aren't in the know about motorcycle lighting systems might look at you MORE because they may think that you have a headlight out
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posted February 08, 2004 03:10 PM
If you are riding a sportbike, you are considered to have either committed a crime and got away with it, or will shortly commit a crime. You are always guilty in the eyes of the police.
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