KZScott
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posted November 28, 2012 12:04 PM
new turbo build
slowly working away at the new setup, not getting much time lately with work, but heres a start. nothing is finalized yet for design, just getting some ideas
using a Comp CT-4 6265. anti surge with billet wheel, and a .82 divided t3 hot side
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
  
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vailes3705
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posted November 29, 2012 06:49 AM
NICE!!! This shoud be interesting build thread...
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MAXUMIS
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posted November 30, 2012 07:52 PM
 Edited By: entropy on 4 Dec 2012 07:27
Doing great KZ!
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KZScott
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posted November 30, 2012 10:47 PM
a little progress. same as last yr, i dont have the proper equipment or skill to tig this so im just tacking it together and will get my buddy to finish it.
Way tighter. No shimming the (full size) rad
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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MAXUMIS
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posted December 01, 2012 11:39 PM
Looking good !!
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KZScott
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posted December 02, 2012 03:07 PM
Edited By: KZScott on 2 Dec 2012 23:09
thanks, making more progress.
im doing this with the basics. an angle grinder, chop saw and carbide cutter on a drill. i want a bandsaw....
not sure why that pic went so big? mods?
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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Color Me Gone
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posted December 02, 2012 03:48 PM
KZ looks fantastic! cmg
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KZScott
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posted December 02, 2012 10:37 PM
thank you, a little bit more
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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MAXUMIS
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posted December 03, 2012 12:50 AM
Doing awesome KZ,will be great to see the new setup!!
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dougmeyer
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posted December 03, 2012 04:14 PM
Looking great Scott!
Very cool.
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KZScott
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posted December 08, 2012 04:32 PM
thank you! ready for the "tigger" before i can go further on this. hes a new dad as of yesterday so ill probably be waiting till next wknd
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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MAXUMIS
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posted December 08, 2012 06:55 PM
Edited By: MAXUMIS on 9 Dec 2012 03:04
. looks great.
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kawa74
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posted December 10, 2012 11:56 PM
Looking good.
Scott before you go and weld up the Dump pipe to the Tiwinder I got a few numbers for you.
Area = Pr^
A 1 sq in of perfectly round pipe will flow ..146 cfm ...@ 28" of water
3" Di... dump pipe = r = 1.5".. r^ = 2.25" x 3.14 = ....7.06 sq in Area
7.06" x 146 = ...1031 cfm...@ 28 in of water
2.375" Di... Tiwinder = r = 1.1875"...r^ = 1.410" x 3.14 =.... 4.43 sq in Area
4.43 " x 146 =... 647 cfm... @ 28 in of water
3" = .................1031 cfm
2.375" = ...........647 cfm
That is a 37% Less flow= restriction = backpressure= less HP
You want to make the Most HP with the lest amount of Pressure possible , the harder you make the compressor work , the Hotter the compressor makes the Air going into engine???
Draw or trace the Pipe Diameiers on a piece of paper and compare, you will see a big differance.
It is all Physics, what ever you Flows into a engine has to Flow out.
Keep it up
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KZScott
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posted December 11, 2012 08:30 AM
kawa74, I have a few numbers for you. the turbo accepts a 3 in vband flange/clamp, but the ID is actually smaller. its about 2 5/8 which is supposed to be matched to the turbine wheel. I was actually thinking about getting rid of the TiWinder meg and running a full system with the HMF can RCC carries. it has a 2.5in ID and I bought 2.5in tubing. I plan on tapering the tubing from the 2 5/8 to the 2.5 in tubing at the turbo so no big step, and far less size change than the t61 setup from last yr. I may also do a setup with straight dumps to swap in for testing, but i like stealthy
your thoughts?
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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kawa74
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posted December 11, 2012 03:18 PM
Air flow doesn't like exspansions or contractions, one size is best ., Longer the pipe the Quieter.
3" flows = 1031 cfm
........................................1 cfm = .43 HP......-154cfm x .43 =----- 70 HP less
2 3/4 flows = 867 cfm
.........................................1 cfm = .43 HP.....-.77cfm x .43 = -------33 HP less
2 5/8 flows = 790 cfm
........................................1 cfm = .43 HP........-73cfm x .43 = -------31 HP less
2 1/2 flows = 717 cfm
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KZScott
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posted December 13, 2012 10:48 AM
Edited By: KZScott on 13 Dec 2012 18:52
Im going to do it the same way i had planned....
opps... :P
smaller charge piping this time, thx to Seb for the tip. easier to route, and really not a measurable difference in hp at this level
Slice by my thumb and wrap up around by the cam pos sensor.....
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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KZScott
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posted December 28, 2012 12:32 AM
some tig done
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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LilJohn198807
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posted January 04, 2013 06:33 PM
Cant wait to see it done and going down the track
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Timewarp
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posted January 05, 2013 09:34 PM
Edited By: entropy on 13 Jan 2013 04:20
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Cant wait to see it done and going down the track
8.50's aren't that impressive. He's sneakin up on it though. ( Sneakin up on it ) ALA------> LOST and clueless See his 2012 results for a sneak peak into 2013
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entropy
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posted January 06, 2013 08:32 AM
my o' my, look who is back.
Mr zero credentials is once again hard at work criticising people who actually own a race bike.
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entropy
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posted January 06, 2013 09:24 AM
man o' man, Timewarp has exactly the same style & content as that Gunner guy who went silent way back when. Gunner was a pure troll, sort of like weighmeister but much more of a poser.
During the last flurry of timewarp running down everybody's efforts, i commented that the style = ole Gunner's.
Gunner then contacted me and vehemently denied being Timewarp, and i more or less bought it.
But now again I am reminded of Gunner.
Too bad Shane661 got irked with me (i was off base...) and doesn't contact me these days. I think Shane had some info from other forums which links Timewarp to Gunner.
Oh well, no one really gives a shit.
I just hate to see a no-credential poser like Timewarp/Gunner? run down a true enthusiast like Scott with his most EXCELLENT project.
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posted January 06, 2013 01:21 PM
I have never understood why anyone would run down others efforts.
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entropy
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posted January 06, 2013 08:06 PM
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I have never understood why anyone would run down others efforts.
no cred internet nitwits like Timewarp/Gunner have been doing it for years.
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vailes3705
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posted January 08, 2013 03:02 AM
Looking good. Can't wait to see it finished!!
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2011 ZX14
Best 1/8 mile to date:
5.90 @ 121
1.46 60ft
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moko
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posted January 08, 2013 07:44 PM
Edited By: moko on 9 Jan 2013 03:46
great work Scott
and file all comments from gunner/timewarp....in the "total prick/loser" folder
...thanks alot...appreciate it : )
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