INTRA
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posted March 01, 2003 09:43 PM
A FEW TURBO QUESTIONS
For those who don't already know,I have a turbo blackbird now,the motor is built from bottom to top,lockup,67 inches long(can be adjusted longer)MR TURBO race kit,garrett T3 high flow "red" injectors,w/both stages it pushes 335 hp at 30lbs of boost,240 w/14psi,bike has everything,cut tank(4inches),good stuff from macintosh,MRE,MTC,Falicon crank,Carrillo rods,and more.The question is why does it only make 335 with so much boost?What can be done to make 400-450hp?Mr TURBO says modify the turbo charger,but I don't want 50lbs of boost just to make that hp.I would think it would make more power,but I don't know shit about turbos.Any info will help,thanks.-By the way,I took it around the block today and hammered the gas through 2 gears with both stages of boost and it just about blew the 26" slick off the rim!That sucka hits!
  
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AnotherRedHead
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posted March 02, 2003 12:13 AM
I need to come over and ride that bitch
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Your Car Is Slow
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posted March 02, 2003 10:40 AM
30psi and its makin 330hp.....thats an insane amount of boost man 
you want another hundred?
Well...going from what the turbo car guys around here do. Use a small shot of nitrous (even a 20 or 30 shot can make amazing gains on a turbo due to its cooling effects on the intake air temperature).
Or if that scares you...spray the nitrous ON the intercooler from the outside to make the intercooler work better.
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zrxdean
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posted March 02, 2003 10:57 AM
IS there an intercooler? Have you talked to Velocity Barry, NLR Seb, Motorhead Dennis?
Need someone to test it out, offer a second opinion???
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INTRA
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posted March 02, 2003 11:16 AM
no intercooler,Terry Kiser from Mr Turbo says a shot of NOS would be good,but dry or wet is the question,the EFI system I'm sure only compensates for boost,not juice,I would rather just get more hp from the turbo,shit,the muzzy ZRX makes 475hp,so what's the trick there?Dean,that bike is fun to ride,loud as hell,and when it's cold,it's a pain in the ass to warm up.
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INTRA
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posted March 02, 2003 11:23 AM
AnotherRedHead has some turbo experience w/cars,but I think he went over to the dark side.
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posted March 02, 2003 11:57 AM
My zx12 is going to be turbo....Im doing it the right way 
Ive got gen7 dfi for it, 83 lb injectors, complete fuel system, built motor with carillos and some nitrous pistons(using a spacer), ti retainers and valvesprings, 68 inch raked chassis from mcintosh. My shit aint gonna be no pussy player, I plan on taking down some shit when I debut this bitch in houston....
All I need is to build my turbo header. I could do it, but I dont have a bandsaw to cut my stainless. Innovative is setting me up with a turbo and Job spetter is tuning the bike....I expect to put down 500 or so with the turbo Im using....I would like to go no intercooler to save weight, but I might just ship it to NLR to get an air to water over the nose(I'll need it )....havent decided yet. Give me a few months and you will see a 12 custom like youve never seen before. If folks are interested I will post up some pics of the setup and what parts are going into it.....
The busa I bought lastweek is only for 60 inch
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RAC4IT
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posted March 02, 2003 04:11 PM
Job Spetter is the fucking DFI man for tuning!! He has done all the DFI racecars I know that roll out from low 7s to my friends DFI nitrous Corvette! In fact I was just at his shop a couple months ago!
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posted March 02, 2003 06:10 PM
The nitrous could be wet or dry depending on how much you want to spray.
Only way to find that out is to spray it on a dyno and look at the A/F.
Although I doubt a small shot would impact the a/f that much..and would probably gain more power than advertised just from the temperature drop itself.
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Lorcan
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posted March 03, 2003 01:40 PM
Your T3 compressor is topped out at 330hp and all it is making is heat, not boost. Mr Turbo is right, get your T3 turbine mated to a T04E compressor, 46 to 50 trim, by Mr Turbo or Turbonetics or whoever your favourite turbo guy is and you will have a 450hp capable turbocharger that will make more hp at the same boost by virtue of being more efficient.
Whether your engine will take it is another matter
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posted March 03, 2003 02:21 PM
If it breaks...it wasnt high performance enough
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AnotherRedHead
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posted March 03, 2003 05:16 PM
motor will take it, only prob is, he doesnt know what the fuel controller does, or how it works....I went and looked at it, some fucking gold box Ive never seen before. If it was a dfi system or something with a map sensor I could see it compensating for the boost, but who knows with the gold box of doom! LOL
Joey, I told you already, get that turbo off there so I can send it to innovative for you, and let me call terry tomorrow and figure out whats up with the box...450rwhp is only a turbo away dude.......T3s are for eclipses and SVO mustangs
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nlr
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posted March 03, 2003 07:56 PM
to4e 50 trim turbocharger with a .63 ar stg 3 or 5 turbine wheel. There ya go free of charge. I plotted your info on a bunch of compressor maps and this is the best choice for your bike and amount of power you want to make.
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INTRA
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posted March 03, 2003 09:49 PM
Thanks alot!Talk about help,and it's not even your kit,much appreciated,hopefully I have enough fuel,the injectors(red,if color means the bigger ones according to Mr Turbo,it does)we just need to figure out how to set the fuel,how much would the parts cost for this upgrade?
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DR JOE
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posted March 04, 2003 08:19 PM
Hey nlr
Do you guys make a turbo kit for the ZX12R ?? If so how much??
Thanks for being on our site....
DR JOE
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posted March 05, 2003 02:53 AM
 Edited By: harryzx-12 on 5 Mar 2003 02:55
double post
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harryzx-12
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posted March 05, 2003 02:54 AM
Here's the nlr website Joe.
http://www.nlrsystems.com/pages/mcxpress_index.html
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