zxkimmo
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posted January 10, 2003 03:44 PM
 Edited By: zxkimmo on 11 Jan 2003 01:38
Airshifter for ZX12
Which airshifter is the best choise? There was earlier something bad about Muzzys airshifters, are they okey now?
   
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ZX12Girl
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posted January 10, 2003 05:27 PM
Edited By: ZX12Girl on 10 Jan 2003 17:30
I do not have a Muzzy nor have I had experience with one.
We both (kzz1 and I) have the MRE Airshifter. We bought them from Schnitz Racing. We have had NO issues (mechanically) with either one of ours.
http://secure.cartsvr.net/catalogs/catalog.asp?category=19222&prodid=325791
and the gauge -
http://secure.cartsvr.net/catalogs/catalog.asp?category=19222&prodid=326462
Index of Airshifters -
http://secure.cartsvr.net/catalogs/categoryindex.asp?category=19222&count=1
I did get one of the lines too close to a hot shot and melted a hole in a line once. 
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ZX12Girl
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posted January 10, 2003 05:31 PM
BTW: This will be year #3 with this unit!!!
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RAC4IT
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posted January 10, 2003 05:44 PM
What do you need an airshifter for? Be a man! (no offense ZX12Girl hehe)  8s are possible foot-shifting!
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kzz1
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posted January 10, 2003 06:06 PM
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What do you need an airshifter for? Be a man! (no offense ZX12Girl hehe) 8s are possible foot-shifting!
Too lazy to foot shift!
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zrxdean
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posted January 10, 2003 07:34 PM
I don't know if it's about being a man or not... Airshifters are consistent -safer for your transmission, they eliminate the need to get your foot up for the 1-2, and will make you quicker and faster.
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RAC4IT
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Bergie
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posted January 11, 2003 02:15 PM
yea I know what the they are supposed to do
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RedBull
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posted January 11, 2003 03:43 PM
Edited By: RedBull on 11 Jan 2003 15:45
Pingel told me that an air shifter will not make your bike faster, (unless you can't shift.)
However the shifter will settle your ride down & make you more consistant.
But you don't need one to win a Championship!
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kcadby
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posted January 11, 2003 04:29 PM
The ZX12 is "the best shifting bike I have ever raced" it IS the first/only bike (model) I have ever ridden that does NOT need an air shifter to "go quicker" at the track IMO...
THAT being said...GET ONE ANYWAY!!! 
It WILL help your consistency...and it IS nice not HAVING TO FIND the shifter for second gear
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DR JOE
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posted January 11, 2003 05:11 PM
I have the MRE airshifter on mine also. Made brackets that look and act like Muzzys and it works fine. The only problem that I had was bad air hose, It popped twice inside 2 weeks in 2 diffrent places. I think that I just got some bad hose. Got some new hose that has a higher rating of 600psi, I think the guy told me that the black hose has a 150 or 200psi rating.
Guy at the track has a Muzzy and the only problem they had was the regulator was set to low when they first came out. But all the new ones are fine.
I'm in the process of trying to fit my air bottle with the same regulater that Muzzy uses so I can charge it once or twice a season.
If any one has done this I would like to know the part numbers that are uses to do this.
Hope this helps.... DR JOE
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cowboy
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posted January 11, 2003 07:30 PM
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I have the MRE airshifter on mine also. Made brackets that look and act like Muzzys and it works fine. The only problem that I had was bad air hose, It popped twice inside 2 weeks in 2 diffrent places. I think that I just got some bad hose. Got some new hose that has a higher rating of 600psi, I think the guy told me that the black hose has a 150 or 200psi rating.
Guy at the track has a Muzzy and the only problem they had was the regulator was set to low when they first came out. But all the new ones are fine.
I'm in the process of trying to fit my air bottle with the same regulater that Muzzy uses so I can charge it once or twice a season.
If any one has done this I would like to know the part numbers that are uses to do this.
Hope this helps.... DR JOE
MPS sells the regulator
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cowboy
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posted January 11, 2003 07:31 PM
quote:
yea I know what the they are supposed to do
I know what you mean!!
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zxkimmo
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posted January 12, 2003 10:04 AM
Thanks for the answers. I think i choose the muzzyshifter. It is the easiest way, because i get all parts in one package.
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RAC4IT
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Bergie
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posted January 12, 2003 12:16 PM
I can think of a lot better ways to spend $600... right cowboy?
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DR JOE
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posted January 14, 2003 08:00 PM
MPS sells the regulator
Thanks Cowboy
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kcadby
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posted January 16, 2003 11:44 AM
STILL wish I could have seen your bike with the shifter Bergie...
I just don't understand why you had so much trouble...
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RAC4IT
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Bergie
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posted January 16, 2003 12:28 PM
Its still on the bike, just not using it. I'll mess around with it later this month or in February. I'm considering trying an expansion canister between the bottle and regulator as well as an anti-siphon pickup in the C02 bottle. I've been told these changes should fix the problem...
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cowboy
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posted January 16, 2003 01:26 PM
Well your at it fix mine.Hope that fixes your problem Bergie but the guys i have talked to don't agree with your theory.There fix is large ram pushing directly on the shifter,race cut tranny and different kill box(like muzzy ems or nlr digital kill).Depending on how your making your extra hp and the shape your tranny is in will determine if you need one of these or all of these fixes.I still believe if your not too much over 200 your shifter will shift no matter what kit(pingle muzzy or mps).
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RAC4IT
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Bergie
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posted January 16, 2003 02:44 PM
I might change to an NLR box or maybe try the MPS "auto shifter" that would be cool if it actually worked where I could dial in a specific RPM and let it automatically shift! It would be a bracket killer!
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cowboy
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posted January 16, 2003 04:19 PM
Your going to get yourself in more shifting trouble with the autoshifter.
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kingzx12r
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posted January 17, 2003 06:38 AM
I agree the shifters work fine up to about 200hp then you are in modify land like the rest of us, I'm still foot shifting but if Cowboy figures it out I may be convinced to reconsider.
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cowboy
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posted January 17, 2003 09:16 AM
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kcadby
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posted January 17, 2003 05:19 PM
The only reason (I can think of) for a bike that has over 200HP not shifting is...the tire spinning.
The purpose of the kill box is to unload the tranny for the shift...
If it kills long enough to unload the tranny...it WILL shift...
Screw it...go for the automatic tranny (racers only) they don't care how much powa you gots!!!
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