entropy
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posted December 01, 2002 10:41 AM
NEW clutch post: grade yr fibers!!!
I am the self appointed "AntiChrist of clutch longevity" and thought I had tried everything, but today I found out something useful (for me at least).
Up till now my clutch routine has been to pitch blue steels and pitch fibers when they get down to .126" or so. A new clutch pak will last about 20 passes and will then have 4-6 black steels and some worn fibers.
I buy plenty of new plates but often I put together a pak of used but still serviceable steels and fibers. However, unlike the virgin paks, my makeup paks pretty much always have varying amounts of chatter.
Today, I was making up a pak of used plates and noticed that the fibers, although all .128-.129" thickness were varying colors. Some looked sort of new, some were very dark, both the fiber material and the steel plate backing.
Soo, I dug around my pile of used fibers and found 11 which were not discolored. Put em together with 10 good/used steels, and...
Guess what: NO CHATTER!!!!!!!
I'll bet the discolored ones were damaged by heat even tho they have very little wear.
Anyway, that my news for today; anyone have similar experiences?
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RAC4IT
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posted December 01, 2002 11:08 AM
Same experience here, I have about 50 of each spares still good for street use just not so good for drag racing. Also if you add another thin steel to a worn pack it will reduce chatter on an otherwise still streetable clutch.
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krexken
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posted December 01, 2002 11:49 AM
Uh, no. I'm on the second set of clutches on my bike. 10k and lots of passes.
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MadMike
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posted December 01, 2002 01:35 PM
Entropy, how did those clutch parts look? did you notice anything?
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kawachan
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posted December 01, 2002 02:45 PM
I'm with Ken. Only on my second set, and that is because I upgraded to the Muzzy kit, which was actually used......lots of abuse, too!! Must be something with TFA statuus??
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entropy
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posted December 02, 2002 06:55 AM
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Entropy, how did those clutch parts look? did you notice anything?
mm, i haven't put em in yet, still trying to straighten out other things. i want to use them after things are running smoothly.
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entropy
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posted December 02, 2002 06:57 AM
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I'm with Ken. Only on my second set, and that is because I upgraded to the Muzzy kit, which was actually used......lots of abuse, too!! Must be something with TFA statuus??
you skinny guys!!!!!!!
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ZRXDean
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posted December 02, 2002 09:06 AM
I've been on the same clutch pack for ~150 passes, fibers are fine. In the long run, I bet you'd save money and go faster using a lockup.
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entropy
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posted December 02, 2002 10:09 AM
lockup??? you are prolly correct!
I'd prolly save on clutches if I weighed less, also.
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