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posted February 10, 2010 02:06 PM
adams pan differences?
ok, I have some old pics from Mr "dont be scared" from a few yrs ago of a Coby Adams pan. I have some new pics of a fairly new Adams pan as Mike(chavcat) was kind enough to let me borrow his so I can copy it with a few small changes. the pan from Mike looks like a very different design. IMO the old style is better
pics from Bergie:
Mikes pan:
the newer one appears to be missing the 2 baffles, has a bigger hole by the pickup, smaller drain holes in the top, and looks like it holds less. IMO, its cheaper to make as there are no baffles (less material, less cutting, less welding) and the bottom is made from one piece thats cut and bent instead of 2 pieces welded together.
for those of you with an Adams pan, does yours look like Bergies or Mikes?
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posted February 11, 2010 06:04 AM
I agree with you Scott.
I have the Adams pan.
That is what mine looks like.
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posted February 11, 2010 08:42 AM
I have an Adams pan and it looks like Bergie's. Only problem I had was the baffle on the extended side came loose and i had to cut the bottom off to be able to weld it back on.
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posted February 11, 2010 06:08 PM
quote:
That is what mine looks like.
which one? first pics or last pics?
thanks blueshark
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00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
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posted February 11, 2010 06:52 PM
 Edited By: Dane on 12 Feb 2010 03:12
Scott, the pan i have looks like mikes but does not have any baffles, with (2) 7mm holes, damn wish mine was bigger like bergies. I'm going to put a few more holes
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posted February 12, 2010 07:17 AM
Mine looks like bergie's as well..........., that is the true Adam's pan.
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posted February 12, 2010 07:18 AM
Mine looks like bergie's as well..........., that is the true Adam's pan.
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posted February 12, 2010 03:46 PM
thanks. I guess hes cut costs on new ones?
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00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
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posted February 12, 2010 05:19 PM
Edited By: Dane on 13 Feb 2010 01:21
Kind've feel I got short-changed......would have gladly paid more $ to get the extra capacity and maybe a sticker.
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posted February 12, 2010 07:03 PM
Im really glad im making one now instead of buying one. if i had to redo it anyway, might aswell do the whole thing
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00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted February 12, 2010 07:24 PM
Id like to cut one down...would you care to give some details of what you would want to change or reconfigure.....
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posted February 12, 2010 07:32 PM
well im going to make it as big as possible, it may hold more than the old style. im changing the baffle thats just behind the pickup aswell. i made a slosh plate or "roof" for my oil pan last yr, i want to bring the baffle up to that so if oil goes back and up (hard squat on launch) it cant go anywhere and has to stay at the pickup. i want to make that baffle a little wider too. ill have pics up hopefully in a week or so of the progress
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted February 13, 2010 07:33 AM
Scott are you getting much more clearance with this design?
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posted February 13, 2010 10:30 AM
close to 1.5 in compared to stock Lyndon, but as you can see it wont work with a regular street pipe that goes under the oil pan. which is why i got the SW  . compared to the modified pan i ran last season with the shaved bottom and moved drain plug Im gaining about 1 in.
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted February 14, 2010 09:01 PM
The coby pan is shorter than a brock sidewinder.......
and, with stock ram air......, you wont really be able to lower the bike any more, without running into problems there.......
My front end is lowered 3.5", and my pan is not the lowest point, it is the header by about 1/8 inch.......
with a filter change, it takes me 5 qts.
A turbo set up, could use more clearance........, or possibly a muzzy header, but I think Karl proved in dyno testing....., the muzzy header, on the zx12, is inferior, or at least it was for the header on my bike, which is the one karl tested for Brock, and the original dyno map brock gives out was made for........
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posted February 14, 2010 09:17 PM
im planning on getting a really low profile tire and moving the fender lower
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posted February 14, 2010 09:29 PM
If you have transfer punches and a drill press, its easy........
I lowered my front fender almost a half inch.......
Using a zx10 fender now for looks......, lots harder to mount though........
I have a skinny catalyst fender primed and ready to paint if you are interested in it......, looks real good on a low pro tire....., got some lowered brackets for it as well, ........
hit me up if you are interested........
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posted February 15, 2010 02:02 AM
@KZScott
fix that part !!!!! its important !!!
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posted February 15, 2010 06:26 AM
That is the part that holds the oil pickup form falling out, and you need a wall behind it, or the oil is going out of it........
Good point woppi......
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posted February 15, 2010 09:49 AM
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thx !
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posted February 15, 2010 02:54 PM
quote:
im changing the baffle thats just behind the pickup aswell. i made a slosh plate or "roof" for my oil pan last yr, i want to bring the baffle up to that so if oil goes back and up (hard squat on launch) it cant go anywhere and has to stay at the pickup. i want to make that baffle a little wider too.
this is what i was talking about above
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted February 15, 2010 04:20 PM
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posted February 15, 2010 04:24 PM
Edited By: KZScott on 16 Feb 2010 00:30
yes!
whos work?
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted February 15, 2010 04:26 PM
quote:
I have a skinny catalyst fender primed and ready to paint if you are interested in it......, looks real good on a low pro tire....., got some lowered brackets for it as well, ........
hit me up if you are interested........
got a few things to buy first, but ill check with you later to see if you still have it
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted February 15, 2010 09:34 PM
K.
Not many around still running these. Doubt it goes anywhere.........
Good luck. You have more time than I do, I need mine back from paint so I can finish it up.
I will get some chassis pics up soon, of the new subframe, etc.
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