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fastestr1


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posted November 14, 2002 09:06 AM        
Balancer

What do you gain by removing the balancer from the crank?
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ZRXDean


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posted November 14, 2002 09:39 AM        
Around 3-5 horsepower. You'll need to have the crank balanced first.
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fastestr1


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posted November 14, 2002 10:02 AM        
That much, wish i would have thought about that when my motor was apart. I wounder if I could remover the crank by just dropping the oil pan.
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ninja12


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posted November 14, 2002 12:48 PM        
No, you have to split hte cases!
sorry

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swft


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posted November 14, 2002 01:36 PM        
Specially considering the balancer is *above* the crank!
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fastestr1


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posted November 14, 2002 02:38 PM        
Well it was a good ideal, removeing and installing than motor is a bear. thansk for the quick answers.
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kcadby


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posted November 15, 2002 11:07 AM        
UMmmm SWFT...the balancer is...BELOW the crank...

I'm pretty sure you could get the balancer out but...I would want the crank balanced so...the motor DOES need to be torn down...

It's not that big a deal to R&R the motor...I've done 3-4 BY MYSELF...

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ninja12


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posted November 15, 2002 12:06 PM        
Not to doubt you, kcadby.
But i don't think it will come out.
I tried it. It was so close, but didn't happen.
Maybe you know more tricks than i do,
but i gave up after giving it the old college try.
It's not an issue since you must balance the crank.
Kawi saved me from myself!

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swft


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posted November 15, 2002 12:13 PM        
Kcadby - Not the way I ride!~ (Thanks for the correction, pal. *grin*)
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kawachan


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posted November 15, 2002 12:19 PM        
I took mine out. Gotta split the cases. I didn't balance the crank, either. Uh-oh!!
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kcadby


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posted November 15, 2002 12:52 PM        
Ah...Sorry...
I thought it might come out without splitting the cases
I haven't tried to do it without splitting the cases...just thoought it might be possible...

You don't HAVE TO re-balance the crank...it's just better if you can...
The 1361 I built...runs...VERY SMOOTH...the way I balanced EVERYTHING...

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kawachan


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posted November 15, 2002 01:07 PM        
Pshew...had me worried. I know mine likes to shake the nuts and bolts loose, though. Oh, well. As long as it runs good......
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ninja12


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posted November 16, 2002 08:53 PM        
Kevin ,
It looks like it will come out. I was suprised when it didn't.
No way you could have know unless you actually tried it.
To be honest i wanted you to prove me wrong.

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fastestr1


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posted November 16, 2002 11:32 PM        
So is it something I should do with out balacing the crank.
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entropy


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posted November 17, 2002 04:51 AM        
I had my balancer taken off and did NOT rebalance the crank. I was told that the balancer had nothing to do with the crank's balance, rather it was for overall motor balance ???? I really haven't noticed any increase in vibration.
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ninja12


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posted November 17, 2002 05:50 AM        
karl, i think he is referring to stock cranks with no work.
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entropy


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posted November 17, 2002 06:53 AM        
hey gerard, good morning! You are prolly right. You could put the amount I know about the bike's internals on the head of a pin next to all those dancing angels and still have room left over!
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ra12r


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posted November 17, 2002 07:29 AM        
The balancer is addressing "harmonic's". If our cranks were OUT of balance stock, then the balancer would/could not correct the problem. To get 10,000 rpms your CRANK needs to be balanced.......This balancing issue in this motor is exaggerated by some here.
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mrfast


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posted November 17, 2002 08:10 PM        
I have heard from some pretty good sources that by removing the balancer the motor will rev faster but actual HP is not effected, Maybe Doug Meyer could comment on this.
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stef12rr


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posted December 10, 2006 10:50 AM        
allo guys did you simply take the balancer out, or replace it with the muzzy http://www.muzzys.com/ZX12counter_balancer/index.html
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entropy


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posted December 10, 2006 11:09 AM        
you can't just take it all out. Take the gear off theshaft and either buy a Muzzy piece or simply have someone put a bit of weld in the oil hole on the existing shaft. Gotta plug that hole somehow. No biggie.
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posted December 10, 2006 11:15 AM        
Hey Stef12rr... I have a used one I would send to you for shipping and a beer....
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stef12rr


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posted December 10, 2006 02:18 PM        
hi MadMike my beer lover i am a beer lover my sell !! ;o))) where you from? me i am from Canada
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posted December 11, 2006 07:22 AM        
I live in the US... Iowa... PM me your address and I will send it out to ya...

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ninja12


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posted December 11, 2006 10:52 AM        
IF we had Rep points like some boards MM would have flipped the meter and started over by now.
Good looking out.

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