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posted October 04, 2009 08:30 AM
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Just work on your 60' times and you will be in the 8's every pass. I was doing 1.38 - 1.40 Thursday night and running 9.05 on 87 pump gas. Weather down here is still shitty. DA is still over 2000 ft. Once we get a nice cool front to sweep through, the 8's will be back for me on pump gas. Gonna get some MR9 when it gets colder outside to see if I can break my best of 8.74 which was done in January. I've lowered the bike more since then, so I'm thinking I may be quicker this winter if I can get my 60's lower.
Pat, are you still sitting at 69"? How far back can you go on your arm? I am about at my limit now, just under 65". I only have 1/8th before the end of the arm. I may need to get the adjusters machined to allow room for chain adjustment.
I might consider a longer arm this winter, for a more aggressive setup. Right now my bike is still on the "street" side of chassis prep.
Shane
Yea still at 69". I have one more inch that I can go, but I would need to add more links (which I don't like to do), or just get a whole new chain. My chain has 1500 passes. I guess I may need to get another one one day....best 60' so far 1.33. Gonna try for 1.31 this winter.
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posted October 04, 2009 09:02 AM
It should have at least another two MPH with those BST wheels !!! That thing is suppose to fly with those $3,500 dollar wheels. Maybe its his body weight thats affecting the MPH. A good tune up and and a little bit better sixty foot should have you there. With the up close pics i see that he's a pretty big guy.
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posted October 04, 2009 09:06 AM
Put a quickshifter on the bike and it will shift alot smoother and faster. Can get a little bit of E.T. there as well.
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posted October 04, 2009 09:11 AM
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It should have at least another two MPH with those BST wheels !!! That thing is suppose to fly with those $3,500 dollar wheels. Maybe its his body weight thats affecting the MPH. A good tune up and and a little bit better sixty foot should have you there. With the up close pics i see that he's a pretty big guy.
Well, I would say that I have yet to see a stock motor 14 with a 222 lb. suited rider run 157 mph+ in the 1/4 mile. The air would have to be ridiculously good for that. Hell, I saw Rickey Grayson run an 8.62@155 mph stock motor last year. On a 45 degree day. He is about 70 lbs. lighter than me, and a pro.
Even with the wheels, my bike/rider combo is about 30 lbs. heavier than what he was running. The wheels are great, but don't believe all of the marketing hype on them (like .20 in ET, or whatever they say). I didn't buy into all of it before I bought them, I just wanted a lighter bike...and they delivered. 
When you go to the track next time, count the number of 220+ lb. suited guys running 154+ mph on a stock motor. I think you would be surprised to see how few it is. Of course, I know I will get even more mph out of my setup...but it is moving along nicely right now.
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posted October 04, 2009 09:21 AM
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Put a quickshifter on the bike and it will shift alot smoother and faster. Can get a little bit of E.T. there as well.
It has an airshifter on it... 
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posted October 04, 2009 09:24 AM
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Yea still at 69". I have one more inch that I can go, but I would need to add more links (which I don't like to do), or just get a whole new chain. My chain has 1500 passes. I guess I may need to get another one one day....best 60' so far 1.33. Gonna try for 1.31 this winter.
I think I can get 1.3's with my current setup, but not likely this season. I would be very, very happy to pull a 1.42-43 with a 3.75 330' before the track closes for the winter.
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posted October 04, 2009 09:54 AM
Shane....try the MPS autoshifter. I think it will help you as well.
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posted October 04, 2009 10:01 AM
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Shane....try the MPS autoshifter. I think it will help you as well.
I have a BoostbySmith autoshifter here to install, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.
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posted October 04, 2009 11:25 AM
The only down fall that I have ran into is with bad track prep I have to thumb shift 1st gear due to tire spin.
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posted October 04, 2009 11:36 AM
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The only down fall that I have ran into is with bad track prep I have to thumb shift 1st gear due to tire spin.
I am working on a shifter mod, to make more positive shifts. I missed 3 shifts out of 37 passes on Friday. I'll update my build thread when it is complete.
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posted October 05, 2009 05:23 AM
Shane, how about a ZX12 ram air snorkel?
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posted October 05, 2009 06:09 AM
Shane...After what I saw you doin this past Friday @ The Jason Miller StreetBike Seminar your 8.90's will come on your next track day Im sure...What did you have 20 passes in 9.0's ???
By the way, your ready for Bracket racing !!!
One more thing...MiRock - MIR debut the new Crazy 8 class which is an 8.88 index class...34 bikes showed up and guess what the stock motored 14s were running when the riders werent 110 % .....Yes, they were going 9.0's.....
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Shane661
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posted October 05, 2009 07:07 AM
Yeah Rick, I would say 20 or so passes in the 9.0's.
I'm thinking about doing a little bracket racing next year. I think with a little more focus and practice I could make it a round or two. 
That Crazy 8 class sounds pretty cool...
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posted October 05, 2009 08:47 PM
Nice runs Shane. You'll get it next time to the track no doubt.
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posted October 05, 2009 10:14 PM
BY no means am i discrediting your bike or you. Those are really good number's but i've seen someone go 156 mph on his stock motor ZX-14 with a PCIII, Brocks SMEG and he weighs 210-215 suited and no BST's......Also, with GOOD Air and MR9. Back to the Quickshifter which I mentioned.....You have to run the quickshifter with the Airshifter and it will shift alot faster and smoother. Thats whats the FAST guys out here in Houston, Texas are doing on the Fast ZX14's !!! Just trying to help you out brough....Not bashing you at all.
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posted October 06, 2009 02:45 AM
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BY no means am i discrediting your bike or you. Those are really good number's but i've seen someone go 156 mph on his stock motor ZX-14 with a PCIII, Brocks SMEG and he weighs 210-215 suited and no BST's......Also, with GOOD Air and MR9. Back to the Quickshifter which I mentioned.....You have to run the quickshifter with the Airshifter and it will shift alot faster and smoother. Thats whats the FAST guys out here in Houston, Texas are doing on the Fast ZX14's !!! Just trying to help you out brough....Not bashing you at all.
You've seen a heavy guy go 156...I went 154+ without tuning the bike. So, I don't see where I have a reason to do anything other than tune it. If you go to the track that often, then you know it is very rare for a stock motor bike to run 155+ consistently.
The shifter I have is seemingly quick and smooth; maybe this winter I will look at making some changes.
Thanks for your advice!
Shane
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posted October 06, 2009 10:21 AM
Shane, use caution if you are going to mill your axle adjuster blocks down...The more you take off the block the less threads you`ll have holding the adjuster bolt in it.....I`ve seen that bolt pull out the threads without being milled.....You don`t need your wheel to get cocked sideways at 150+ mph.....Just a thought.....I`ve seen it happen before.....
Keep up the good work....Your flying on that 14......
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posted October 06, 2009 10:39 AM
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Shane, use caution if you are going to mill your axle adjuster blocks down...The more you take off the block the less threads you`ll have holding the adjuster bolt in it.....I`ve seen that bolt pull out the threads without being milled.....You don`t need your wheel to get cocked sideways at 150+ mph.....Just a thought.....I`ve seen it happen before.....
Keep up the good work....Your flying on that 14......
Thanks for the advice. I would only be milling them about 1/8". I think some guys also go loose on the axle nut, which leads to trouble. I mean, I hate to think that just the 15 aluminum threads were holding all the of hp of the bike!!
I talked to Terry McIntosh and he told basically me that you can get away with the threaded rods through the end of the arm due to the tightness of the axle nut.
But I definitely keep an eye on it!
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posted October 06, 2009 12:37 PM
Oh ya for sure.....The axle has to move 1st before the threaded rod.....I always put the hurt on my axle nut as long as my spacers are right on and my wheel spins free.....
Your getting some killer 60` times outta that 14 with more to come.....
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posted October 06, 2009 04:05 PM
some how my 1.55 60ft seems to be slow. i need to start getting them a lot before i can adjust for lower 60s. maple grove this weekend. genes 98 zx9 with the rare borla exhaust hit 115 in the 1/8th but only 132 mph on top. we need to sort it out jetting wise.
shane if you can get below .020 with all those 9.0s you will get a win. i won my race mostly on reaction time but i was still real close to my number. you will go rounds.
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posted October 06, 2009 09:35 PM
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Not much front half, but it sure does back half.........
Looking at the time slip, I would bet there is a rpm drop at the top of first gear, which is why the 330 is not lower.........
Good consistent times though........., and very good for your body weight.
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posted October 06, 2009 10:27 PM
nice pics + vids
i am not an expert !!!
don´t get me wrong !!
- - your 1/8 mile time is bad ??
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posted October 06, 2009 10:30 PM
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you will get into the 8 !!!!!!!
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posted October 07, 2009 03:32 AM
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- - your 1/8 mile time is bad ??
High 5.70's in the 1/8th are pretty good....as far as I know! 
I would imagine that at the current total weight bike/rider and hp that the bike is not capable of more than 5.60's in the 1/8th. But that is just a guess.
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posted October 07, 2009 03:54 AM
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Not much front half, but it sure does back half.........
Looking at the time slip, I would bet there is a rpm drop at the top of first gear, which is why the 330 is not lower.........
Good consistent times though........., and very good for your body weight.
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Thanks Nox. I think the bike will pick up 330' with some tuning. It is pretty fat in the lower rpm.
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