KZScott

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posted August 30, 2009 06:32 PM
trouble with lock up bearing insert (in the cover)
anyone ever have the bearing thats pressed into their clutch cover for a lock up come out? mine did on me for the second time tonight during my first little test drive. the first time, the aluminum piece that holds the bearing came out of the cover. i sanded it lightly, cleaned everything with brake clean, put some red lock tight on it and tapped it back in. that was last yr. this time, the aluminum piece came out, and the bearing came out of it. rounded the parts off pretty good and i had no clutch lever. i can clean up the aluminum piece and get the bearing back in, but how should i go about making the aluminum piece never pop out of the cover again? i wish the cover was aluminum so i could spot weld it on...
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posted August 30, 2009 07:57 PM
Epoxy?
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krexken
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posted August 30, 2009 08:22 PM
Loctite makes a bearing retainer compound that good for gaps up to around .015, I believe. It's pretty good stuff but I don't think it'll ever be as good as that new fit was. I've probably got a decent cover for cheap if you want to start over.
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Texas12R
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posted August 31, 2009 02:18 AM
yep bearing mount (green) is pretty good stuff
I just dont know loctites no for the stuff
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posted August 31, 2009 04:39 AM
quote: yep bearing mount (green) is pretty good stuff
I just dont know loctites no for the stuff
X2....I used it on mine and hasen`t moved yet.....
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posted August 31, 2009 07:13 AM
quote: yep bearing mount (green) is pretty good stuff
I just dont know loctites no for the stuff
loctite 609
Scott we need pics. Is it possible to get a ball bearing in there to peen the end that it is sliding out?
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rgeorge

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posted August 31, 2009 07:37 AM
How wide is the insert? Enough to hold it in a lathe and knurl the outside of it?
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posted August 31, 2009 07:54 AM
What would cause it to loosen up?It seems this would only be a symtom of a problem.
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posted August 31, 2009 02:30 PM
I will get pics in a day or so when Im over at dads shop getting ready for the races this wknd. Gotta call MTC tomm and try to get a clutch rod over nighted...
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted August 31, 2009 03:43 PM
Scott- if you are in a pinch PM me/call me at home.
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KZScott

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posted August 31, 2009 04:12 PM
Mike, I dont think I have your number? ill email you
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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posted September 01, 2009 02:15 PM
Good talking to you last night. give me a ring when you arent busy tonight please and let me know how you made out and what I owe you!
thx
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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dougmeyer

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posted September 01, 2009 06:38 PM
Check the cover closely.
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KZScott

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posted September 02, 2009 04:38 AM
Huge thank you goes out to Mike for sending me his MTC piece!! should be here tomm
Doug, what exactly am i checking for? warpage or?
Rob, Ive never done any machining, so Im not too sure of what you are telling me to do?
here are a few pics




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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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ZRXDean

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posted September 02, 2009 05:15 AM
Ewww. Ever consider a slider?
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KZScott

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posted September 02, 2009 05:40 AM
cant run one in my class, and kinda hard to drive on the road that way... Im leaning towards a multi though...
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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posted September 02, 2009 06:21 AM
Hmmm, red loctite could be part of the issue......
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posted September 02, 2009 10:11 AM
think it got too hot?
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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posted September 02, 2009 11:20 AM
crackage
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posted September 02, 2009 02:10 PM
quote: crackage
Where?
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KZScott

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posted September 03, 2009 06:19 PM
cover looked ok other than being rubbed. i cleaned it with hot soapy water then brake clean. dremmel'd the aluminum piece, pressed the bearing in with lock tight, roughed up the surface of the aluminum piece and pressed it back into the cover with lock tight. it sat in the sun for a few hrs, and will sit over night. no parts showed up today, so im really hoping they come tomm, or ill be racing with no lock up and 6 muzzy springs like i did in 07
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted September 03, 2009 09:30 PM
Scott, what parts are you waiting on?
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posted September 04, 2009 03:34 AM
scott did you ever get a bearing insert? if not i have a muzzy lockup just setting around that I'll send you the insert out of. till you can get a new one. i dont know what time frame your working with but if you need it. just pm me were to send it. i also have the rod.
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KZScott

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posted September 04, 2009 09:11 AM
the extended pusher. the MTC part that goes in the trans shaft
I think Im ok for the bearing insert Brickman. going racing tonight, but i really appreciate the offer. parts didnt show up so ill be running a regular clutch with 6 muzzy springs this wknd
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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