Shane661
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posted January 09, 2009 02:09 PM
I am still waiting for an answer as to how much suspension squat I need in my application.
Any clue?
  
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Ares
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posted January 09, 2009 02:13 PM
I dont think its in the theory of suspension 101 course he read about. Pats bike hardly squats at all and runs in the 8s.
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posted January 09, 2009 02:15 PM
squat as much as you like shane
me thinks that s what you do is .....................squat
yes i have a clue
yet you that insult me
i would not help
i gave plenty of info b4
that you out of hand discounted...............................your LOSS
i know the hygrometre you wouldnt know about
or how to use it................a great racer taught me
he also ran a direct injection fuel bike long b4 anyone else
& since nobody else..................& he scacely had a hi school education
yet he was leading the pack.................................by YEARS ! ! ! ! ! ! !
so when you are sooooooooooo hi & mighty
& to think you can throw down on somebody
only the man so ignorant..............he can not know
so dumb he cant learn
so blind he can t see
the answer is right in front of you Stupid ! ! ! ! !
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Shane661
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posted January 09, 2009 02:15 PM
Yeah, but can Pat use a Hygrometer??...that is what we are really talking about here. 
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Shane661
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posted January 09, 2009 02:18 PM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 9 Jan 2009 22:18
Flite, you really are an idiot....as you have just proven (again).
I'll tell you what...I'll race you, Mr. High Dollar Street Racer, at the dragstrip...then we can see who is fast and who is last.
So, either put up or shut up. How about that, hero?
Shane
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Ares
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posted January 09, 2009 02:22 PM
Flite, just admit it, you dont have a clue of how much suspension travel is required on a 64 in wb 14. if you did, you would have given Shane a measurement. for example: 4 inches of travel, so make sure you have 5 between the tire and undertail
something in that sort of format
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Shane661
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posted January 09, 2009 02:38 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 9 Jan 2009 22:39
Exactly, Ares. This guy is a joke. What is he going to tell us next...that he killed Jimmy Hoffa...or was best friends with Elvis? Maybe he was on the grassy knoll when JFK was shot?
Or perhaps he is Bigfoot. That would go perfectly with his mythical racing exploits.
Actually, there is more proof of Bigfoot than his racing claims.
Which is it, Flite, or shall we call you "Sasquatch"?
Shane
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Ares
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posted January 09, 2009 02:50 PM
hahaha Shane vs the sasquatch. something tells me Flite wont show up. he wouldnt have a bike that could compete with you anyway. last I checked a moped wouldnt run low 9s, no matter how well the suspension was set up, or what the humidity is
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kawasakijockey
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posted January 09, 2009 02:54 PM
Shane, I weight 220 suited and at 64inches my 14 sits above the tire 3 inches with me on it. A 1.48 60 ft uses about all of it but does not touch unless I get the front wheel over 1.5 ft off the deck and it lightly rubs the factory undertray. With 20-24 tire psi and factory shock with preload set full stiff, compression med. and not quite full hard rebound. It does not spin the Shinko anywhere in the 1/4.
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Shane661
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posted January 09, 2009 02:59 PM
quote:
Shane, I weight 220 suited and at 64inches my 14 sits above the tire 3 inches with me on it. A 1.48 60 ft uses about all of it but does not touch unless I get the front wheel over 1.5 ft off the deck and it lightly rubs the factory undertray. With 20-24 tire psi and factory shock with preload set full stiff, compression med. and not quite full hard rebound. It does not spin the Shinko anywhere in the 1/4.
Thats some good information, I appreciate it. I think I am set up too loose on the preload. I have been hitting the fender with 4" of clearance. My best 60 ft. is 1.49 on my setup, but as it sits I wouldn't be able to go any lower.
Thanks again.
Shane
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Ares
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posted January 09, 2009 08:31 PM
hey look at that, actual expirience and not theory 
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posted January 10, 2009 10:36 AM
shane if you had the hook up
you wouldnt be beggin for the set up
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posted January 10, 2009 10:59 AM
Shane, on my stock motored 12 with a sweet lockup tune at 68" stock shock with a heavy gray spring....Also at 4" loaded and no touch at launch 1.45 60`.....I weigh in a 190 suited....You will have to experiment but it`s a place to start....
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posted January 10, 2009 12:26 PM
Hey Paul, where did you get a heavy spring? expensive?
thx
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posted January 10, 2009 01:09 PM
thats the thing, get somewhere in the ballpark, and tune it for what works best for YOU>
Unless you find someone with your exact set up, but, clutch application will affect squat as well.
good luck with it.......
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posted January 10, 2009 01:15 PM
Scott, bought if as a complete assmbly off someone here...Johnycheese I think...But it is GRAY and alot thicher diam. spring than stock....At stock height the bikes rearend won`t budge if you sit on it....Took alot to get it right but I have more adjustability now, for what I have.....2 or 3 turns on the pre load collar is a big difference....
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posted January 26, 2009 12:13 AM
Shane,
I always knew the 14 is sprung way too soft, so I looked up what race tech suggested for my weight.
I then measured the stock swingarm at 24" long.
With a 6 inch stretch that put me at +25% leverage, and picked the spring closest to 25% over what racetech recomends... I will have to see how well it works this summer...
I know you understand all this, in summary I picked an appropriate spring for my weight and then considered the extra leverage applied with my longer arm.
I did not consider the actual travel yet, but I am pretty sure I will be plenty stiff if I decide to use the adams straight link with the stiffer shock.
Otherwise I have been told not to allow the swingarm to go into negative angle as our friend described.
AS it turns out the GSXR frt end has pulled the wheel back 1 inch, and now a 10 " arm is my limit allowed by the CMDRA rules for turbo bikes... so my new macintosh 8" is not quite ideal... ARGGGG
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