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entropy


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posted December 21, 2008 11:12 PM        
Ali,
It's winter.

also gotta a buncha off the wall stuff when bikes are parked.
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posted December 22, 2008 09:43 AM        
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Flite, the only reason my motor had pistons hitting valves was due to me not hitting the shift button soon enough and hitting the rev limiter. THATS IT! so you can stop your condesending remarks about me and my work. it takes a LOT to really piss me off but you have done it. dont ever post in any thread i ever start again. you are absolutely the most negative and know it all smart ass ive ever seen on bikeland with no proof to back up your statements. im done with you. Its very obvious I can get as much tech info as i need from nice people on this forum like Karl, Tim, Doug, Jim, JC, VH, Gary, Shane, the list goes on and on...
Time is on my side, stick around and watch my progress, 07 rookie of the yr, 08 broke the et and mph records in my class. 09??
welcome to my ignore list. GO FUCK YOURSELF.



valves properly clearanced dont hit the top of pistons
if that were the case

ALL the valves would be hitting the pistons

cams properly indexed dont allow valves to hit the top of pistons

spittin the shims has all & everything to do with you NOT shifting correctly

& by the way altho the pic is crummy

buy yourself a "V" block so you can see if you valves...... the stems are straight

from the pic looks like they AINT

condescending nor critical am i

all ive mentioned is clearly seen from the pix YOU POSTED

this brings up a Real Sticking POINT

to have knowledge & experience to know & see & essentially EVALUATE

does NOT come from magazines

NONE of you wankers came up with ANYTHING

& having come up with NOTHING............you FAILED to HELP scott at ALL

not a one of you said yeah you know fellow racer

you might want to check this..... or that

no less with the OBVIOUS problems we all are seeing........this is HOW

you check..... this is how you do it correctly

this is what you watch out for

Sadly none of you offered him ANY help from the sidelines AT ALL.........HOW SO ? ? ?

at NO time did i discredit his attempt or effort to go racing
yet from what he contributed there's at least 6-12 things wrong with that engine
& he wants to attribute them ALL to rider error & Nitros

BALONEY !!!!!!!!!!

"squish stix" i never mentioned squish stix altho i know 3-4 different ways to measure

squish........................Scottt mentioned he wanted to maintain squish...NOT ME

i hope none of youz have children........................the gene pool forever diluted

to have knowledge....... applied knowledge.........experience is NOT GOOD

what passes here is will & effort & smak talkin

as long as im doin sumthin....................im the man
even if its bassackwards & preety close to Wrong

as long as im tryin........ im a late nite hero
close minded & NOT open to help

that all you got..........................................................................SAD

that engine was coming apart top to bottom & it was saved by a spit shim
putting aother 1 together with that same attitude will result in worse results

if ALL were adept you would notice that i never really said do as i say do
that i have the only way to do it...........................NEVER DID
what i did do was comment on the obvious

acted on reasonably it could only be seen as help
he would end up a better mechanic ............. better engine....... better results

yet from smak talkin............derision
NO help from fellow racers
he will end up with a crap pile

none of you help him & the sad fact is he's BEYOND help




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entropy


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posted December 22, 2008 10:06 AM        
Flite Leader, since it IS the Christmas Season, let me be the 1st to say it:

YOU are as full o' shit as a Chrismas goose.

I was hoping you were just fishing, but apparently yr half-baked bullshit pie is heartfelt.
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posted December 22, 2008 10:15 AM        
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Flite Leader, since it IS the Christmas Season, let me be the 1st to say it:

YOU are as full o' shit as a Chrismas goose.

I was hoping you were just fishing, but apparently yr half-baked bullshit pie is heartfelt.


say what ?????
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posted December 22, 2008 12:00 PM        
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quote:
Flite Leader, since it IS the Christmas Season, let me be the 1st to say it:

YOU are as full o' shit as a Chrismas goose.

I was hoping you were just fishing, but apparently yr half-baked bullshit pie is heartfelt.


say what ?????





he said your a idiot ....


with shit coming out your ears
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posted December 22, 2008 12:29 PM        
yeah & you more than anyone helped scott the most

not what i got from his post

something about him fishing for bullshit close to his heart ?
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posted December 22, 2008 01:55 PM        
FL,
you are trying your hardest to show that KZ fucked up his build.

You are NOT listening to him.

Merry Christmas!

Fisherman.

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posted December 22, 2008 02:15 PM        
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FL,
you are trying your hardest to show that KZ fucked up his build.

You are NOT listening to him.

Merry Christmas!

Fisherman.

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i never said he screwed up anything

i did comment on what i saw
had it been afriend or just sitting on a bench ................
i would have seen same & come to the same conclusions

there were several things he should pay closer attenttion to

there are several builds..... engines apart on this site....................
pix & all

ive not commented at all........in fact 2 look very good indeed

steeping in a pile or putting lipstick on a pig aint helpin anyone

so if he's that sensitive
& the unknowing want to back stop him

so be it but they aint doin him any favors
they didnt offer to him

didnt show him any assistance......................no help at all

all i did was give him a heads up
Evidenced by his pix

tell him dont stand near any ledges

he might get pushed with friends like that
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whitehendrix


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posted December 22, 2008 05:51 PM        
Christ, man. do you ever give it a rest!?!

lmfao.

wow.. you're the same cat that contradicted himself like 15 times on that stator thread a while back.. i remember bustin out the theory on ya.

ya.. about the only use i get from this one is a good laugh..

phenomenal. love how ya skirt around questions like a boxer in the ring.. on your feet.. stick and move stick and move..

problem is, you're not stickin a whole lot there, champ...

haha.. awesome. this is THE shit-talking thread of the year.
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posted December 23, 2008 11:13 AM        
where did i contradict myself on the stator thread

i said it wasnt necessary to go to a larger one

that in fact it would be ineffective & the bike would go slower

where is the contradiction...........................cut & paste

show me the contradiction
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posted December 23, 2008 11:14 PM        
that right there is completely wrong.. bigger=slower.

less load=less strain on the flux=less mechanical load.




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2000redrocket


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posted December 24, 2008 11:29 AM        
i know on a typical generator it does not effect the power consumed if it is not needed. so if the bike works like a generator and you are not loading the charging system a lot who cares. unless the charging system is maxed out all the time and the regualtor is grounding the extra then i can see it but loosing say 2 to 3 hp to keep the voltage up where it belongs to me would be a good trade off.
friend went from no charging system in a challenger in the low 11s to running a charging system to get away from charging the battery between rounds and his et stayed the same and mph increased. i would bet the higher voltage to the msd and coil helped out.

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posted December 24, 2008 01:12 PM        
omg I havent been on for a few days and now I am laughing so damn hard I peed in flight's pants. My god this is good for shooting off all those little happy endorphines in my brain. Flight I don't know what you have had going off in your brain but I would damn well make it stop because I think you have broke something. Any way a Merry Chrismas to all and to all a good bike.
Flight leader I think you just like to start shit and that is your whole purpose for posting at all is just to stir up shit but thanks because you have entertained the hell out of me. I would have never learned about squish let alone tuna squish or squish sticks. And as far as the other babbleing bullshit, I have nothing but time.
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posted December 24, 2008 06:04 PM        
god dammit. i just had like a full page of shit here, and i forgot to log in first, and just lost it ALL.
Fother Mucker man...


Brenda and Red Rocket.. you're both absolutely right.

flite.. man.. if you really want to be respected here, post good shit and stop being so Goddamn combative.

i don't post up unless i KNOW what i'm talking bout. just as well, i won't post if it's been answered by several ppl already.. then it just looks like i'm regurgitating THEIR info... and run the risk on looking like a clown

thats the last thing i need on a site with fellow riders and possibly potential customers..

everntually, i think, i'll be someone whos posts can be taken to the bank thru posting pertainent, correct, understandable and informative stuff and NOT being comabtive with some of the smartest and most knowledgeable ppl in the industry here..

theres no way you'll gain any credibility with that.. i can say that i worked with the #38 ADT/Audi LeMans team in '02 working with carbon fiber (which i did..) on the LMP900 R8.. does anyone HAVE to believe me? hell nah.. will anyone? maybe.. it IS true.. but who am i to try to prove what i did.

same with building bikes, high HP cars and such.. no ones gonna believe i build 600 HP supras and MR-2's in my shop or that i've build race bikes and stunt bikes, or that i EVEN HAVE a bike.. . or that i was an electrical engineer, PLC programmer and motor controls expert, and have a background in electronics.

.the IS the internet. i could say i'm hugh heffner and ppl will believe me


all i can do is do my thing, apply my knowledge, prove i know my shit here and use that to better the site and help ppl.. not fight with everyone..

i hope you, and everyone else, have a merry and safe Christmas !!

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posted December 27, 2008 12:16 PM        
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god dammit. i just had like a full page of shit here, and i forgot to log in first, and just lost it ALL.
Fother Mucker man...


Brenda and Red Rocket.. you're both absolutely right.

flite.. man.. if you really want to be respected here, post good shit and stop being so Goddamn combative.

i don't post up unless i KNOW what i'm talking bout. just as well, i won't post if it's been answered by several ppl already.. then it just looks like i'm regurgitating THEIR info... and run the risk on looking like a clown

thats the last thing i need on a site with fellow riders and possibly potential customers..

everntually, i think, i'll be someone whos posts can be taken to the bank thru posting pertainent, correct, understandable and informative stuff and NOT being comabtive with some of the smartest and most knowledgeable ppl in the industry here..

theres no way you'll gain any credibility with that.. i can say that i worked with the #38 ADT/Audi LeMans team in '02 working with carbon fiber (which i did..) on the LMP900 R8.. does anyone HAVE to believe me? hell nah.. will anyone? maybe.. it IS true.. but who am i to try to prove what i did.

same with building bikes, high HP cars and such.. no ones gonna believe i build 600 HP supras and MR-2's in my shop or that i've build race bikes and stunt bikes, or that i EVEN HAVE a bike.. . or that i was an electrical engineer, PLC programmer and motor controls expert, and have a background in electronics.

.the IS the internet. i could say i'm hugh heffner and ppl will believe me


all i can do is do my thing, apply my knowledge, prove i know my shit here and use that to better the site and help ppl.. not fight with everyone..

i hope you, and everyone else, have a merry and safe Christmas !!



i have never said what i did or what i do

ive been asked & no less denigrated

yet what i have said for what has been been evidenced by the fowarded photos

has been spot on

now that couldne beremotely possible if i didnt know what i was talkin about

i took a pass on the valves hitting the pistons

becuse the photo was SOOOOOOOOOOO BAD

i mentioned the crank clearnces & was berated by an admin/mod &

THE pISTONS WERE smackin THE head

the ONLY way that could happen is Bad setup to Start with

no less i mentioned Crank clearances & big end bearings................NO PHOTOS YET

i wonder why

from top to bottom EVIDENCED by the photos

this engine had serious problems

with knowlwdge & experience i not supposed to comment about that

when its obvious in the photos

when there have been at least 6 things that are simply WRONG

it aint about me or what i do or have done

i can SEE EXACTLY whats wrong


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posted January 03, 2009 08:06 PM        
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i took a pass on the valves hitting the pistons

becuse the photo was SOOOOOOOOOOO BAD

i mentioned the crank clearnces & was berated by an admin/mod &

THE pISTONS WERE smackin THE head

the ONLY way that could happen is Bad setup to Start with




or like the guy from Competition CNC said it could have been only during warm up due to the fact that forged pistons run loose in the bore untill they are up to operating temperature and can rock in the bore. Jim looks to be a very smart man, with a buisness to back it up.

you dont have anything to back up what you are saying. what have you done? (specifically)

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posted January 05, 2009 01:53 PM        
Must be a politican the way he dodges that question.
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posted January 05, 2009 02:18 PM        
separating the wheat from the chaff .................................

race engines are seldom warmed up............or left to idle the worsedo

ride that 1/2 mile to staging lanes................sit 1.2 hour..............burn out & chirp
& someengines ARE NOT up to full temp

the water gauge wont be betwwen hot & cold

then you run a full pull 1/4 mile & by the time you get back

its hot

nascar engines are not allowed to idle

& one lap is considered warm up there & at indy .........that typically run alky engines

that run cooler & forged pistons

so all you coulda & if & & maybe guys are talking out your azzs

& even as they run 300 to 600 miles on nascar tracks

hthey rarely see dyno temps where its NOT Unusual to see glowing headers

but glowing heads

under controlled conditions its easier on a motor

& it also allows thwem to know the limits


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posted January 05, 2009 03:48 PM        
FL,
You have no clue, again, what your talking about.
You assume all engines have the same type of cooling systems.
The more you speak the more aparent it is that you dont know what your talking about.

Thats why you cant answer a single technical question.

You love to talk about Sprint Cup teams, and cooling systems, so let me ask you this.

What are the 3 types of flow in the cooling systems that are commonly found on an SB2.2 engine?
For a bonus point, tell everyone what type is for what type of track.

And you never answered the piston pin offset question.

Heres an easy one, at what aproximate position on the degree wheel is the intake valve closest to the piston.

I'm just giving you an opertunity to show everyone that you actually do know somthing of substance.



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posted January 05, 2009 04:23 PM        Edited By: flite leader on 6 Jan 2009 00:25
where did anyone pose a question about cooling systems...................

iv not seen a post about cooling systems at all

as i asked u b4 & youve failed .........cut & paste & SHOE ME that thread/post

on cooling systems

no less show me my discussion on "SB 2.2" engines

that escapes me also........................cut & paste & show me where i have

posted on a "SB 2.2" engine

you other idiot referall about a valve being closest to thje piston

would depend on 2 or 3 other factors

a- that degree would be the same for every cam.....................................answer is NO !! ! ! !

b- the degree would be the same at any valve clearance.......................NO! ! ! !!

c- that degree would be the same if the head is shaved........................HELL NO! ! ! ! !
[& the last three bikes iv read about all 3 had the heads skimmed]

d- that degree would be the same for ALL Aftermarket pisto set ups............F^#K NO

so no one could pssobly answer that question correctly

you are an idiot to think anyone could

i know enuf that if that engine were on a bench to set it up right

would use my procedure & take my time

so no you did not provide me an opportunity

only yourself

one to make you a fool

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posted January 05, 2009 04:27 PM        Edited By: Shane661 on 6 Jan 2009 00:35
Dude, you didn't work with an International Enduracing Racing Team for 4 years...

You worked at International House of Pancakes for 4 years.



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posted January 05, 2009 04:29 PM        
clever yet untrue

i dont even eat at IHOP..............

i dont yeat that type food
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posted January 05, 2009 04:52 PM        
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jim shuts em down.

shane shuts em down.

scott shuts em down.

EVERYBODY.. shuts em down..


HA!! the carnage is almost unbearable. thread of the year. by far.
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posted January 05, 2009 05:06 PM        
hardly

scott was beggin for me to leave him alone

yikky tries to know sumthin.............................not much

& shane lives VA cant be more a few hours away

wont take the bet on the proof i have

INDISPUTABLE

yet if any of you were so sure i wasnt what i say

then a lil $$$$$$$$$$$$$

just think if you had my $$$$ tooooooooo

yet its ez to be a punk & have mouse sh!t all over you fingers

so wheres the shuut down

WITH NO BET ! ! ! ! !!
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posted January 05, 2009 05:18 PM        
You ignored MY BET, so here it is again. Ill bet you my turbo 14 that you have NO PROOF of being what you say you are. so, you a betting man??? want my bike? (built by Velocity) give everyone some proof. or STFU
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