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posted December 18, 2008 04:07 PM
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Loving tight squish or loose squish
Compounded by whiskey
last night had tuna squish
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posted December 18, 2008 04:57 PM
Edited By: Phantom13 on 19 Dec 2008 00:57
Flite Leader- Exactly what have you built / tuned / or ridden that is worth talking about?
That's all I want to know, that's what we ALL want to know and have been asking you.
Why do you keep dodging this direct question?
Why can't you just site some examples (or even one) of your work?
I keep hearing you say that you've learned from the best, raced bikes and cars, etc..... yet you haven't given us any details beyond that.
I'm starting to think you know a thing or two.... but haven't done squat. If you did, then you would have thrown it in everyone's face by now, but instead you keep giving vague info about your actual experience.
Either you're really someone else and pulling the mother of all winter fishing expeditions..... or you're just another "all talk, no walk" mechanic with "woulda,shoulda,coulda" excuses as to why he has no real accomplishments in the sport.
Which is it?
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posted December 18, 2008 05:52 PM
Laughing my ass off at Karl!
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posted December 18, 2008 06:08 PM
We need an "eating popcorn" icon....
Fish, is this you again?  Black Valkyrie ??
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posted December 18, 2008 06:21 PM
Brenda, this is getting good and comical now.
The board hasnt been this stired up in a long time.
Come on out Fish. I can see you.
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posted December 18, 2008 06:25 PM
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Laughing my ass off at Karl!
whew!
i was hoping i wouldn't offend you 
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posted December 18, 2008 06:42 PM
Your latent political correctness offends me deeply.
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posted December 18, 2008 08:37 PM
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Your latent political correctness offends me deeply.
Me too!
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posted December 18, 2008 09:56 PM
I have not laughed this hard in a long time. Thanks guys. And Karl how about some squish sticks. My sides hurt. Laughing is so damn much fun. Don't you think so Fright leader?
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posted December 18, 2008 10:33 PM
Just as long as your plums don't hurt. If they did, Scott could give you a ride home on the back of his Ninja!
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posted December 18, 2008 11:02 PM
Contemplating squish.
Mud flaps or spam curtains: No!
Head milling: Still No!
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posted December 19, 2008 12:55 AM
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Your latent political correctness offends me deeply.
Me too!
Don't worry, any latent PC is VERY latent!
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posted December 19, 2008 01:11 AM
Edited By: entropy on 19 Dec 2008 09:15
quote:
Contemplating squish.
Mud flaps or spam curtains: No!
Head milling: Still No!
bahahahahahahahahahahahaaha!
coffee on the keyboard
broken valves... spit shims
you could lose the crank: OH NO!
Bent squish stick, worst case
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posted December 19, 2008 01:22 AM
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I have not laughed this hard in a long time. Thanks guys. And Karl how about some squish sticks. My sides hurt. Laughing is so damn much fun. Don't you think so Fright leader?
"Squish sticks"!
bahahahahahahahahahaha
Good one!
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posted December 19, 2008 01:31 AM
Edited By: entropy on 19 Dec 2008 09:32
OK folks, we've had our fun, but enough thread jacking.
Flight started a serious thread, let's get back to the main issues:
1. Squish: how loose is TOO loose?
(FL: please give us a number & pix of measurement technique)
2. Which synthetic oil is best in the case of loose squish?
(Royal Purple?)
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posted December 19, 2008 01:57 AM
Edited By: entropy on 19 Dec 2008 10:30
OK, one more
Half-accurate, half batshit babbling
wild outbursts and fragments!
Our Chin, sweetly sleeping
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posted December 19, 2008 05:20 AM
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Flite Leader- Exactly what have you built / tuned / or ridden that is worth talking about?
That's all I want to know, that's what we ALL want to know and have been asking you.
Why do you keep dodging this direct question?
Why can't you just site some examples (or even one) of your work?
I keep hearing you say that you've learned from the best, raced bikes and cars, etc..... yet you haven't given us any details beyond that.
I'm starting to think you know a thing or two.... but haven't done squat. If you did, then you would have thrown it in everyone's face by now, but instead you keep giving vague info about your actual experience.
Either you're really someone else and pulling the mother of all winter fishing expeditions..... or you're just another "all talk, no walk" mechanic with "woulda,shoulda,coulda" excuses as to why he has no real accomplishments in the sport.
Which is it?
+1. He sounds like he's intentionally vague like those phony fortune tellers or some fortune cookie rambling.
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posted December 19, 2008 12:59 PM
quote:
OK folks, we've had our fun, but enough thread jacking.
Flight started a serious thread, let's get back to the main issues:
1. Squish: how loose is TOO loose?
(FL: please give us a number & pix of measurement technique)
2. Which synthetic oil is best in the case of loose squish?
(Royal Purple?)
oil has nothing to do with squish
another young lady questioned in a thread did she not aboy
preignition & detonation
both usually occur as a direct result of losing the squish ban in a cylinder
she can ask ..... but i cant comment
thats dumb
from the pix & what i commented on was simplythe obvious
& a concern for most
from all thats wrong with that sphagetti engine ..... is fallin apart
the priority would be to narrow it down & KNOW what caused it
Fix it with the intent of not having it happen again...... GAIN some reliabilty
& then look for or build more HP
2 pistons smacking valves......if i built an engine like that for any of you
you would be hoppin mad
no less the clearances of the big end of the crank bearings............ could possibly
be part olf the problem..........................hhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
now you gonna try to get more........ gain more........... spray more
that makes absolutely NO sense
the only thing you gonna do is break more
he may have started off with good intentions
hw may have missed his mark in ceratin areas
that does not mean he cant learn..................................or maybe it does
cause NONE of you guys are doing him any Favors letting him put
together an engine like that
only having it to come apart
the very least you could do is give him a heads up.................tell him
or SHOW how to do it right.......What to LOOK Out for
yet you take a crack at me..........................& you get NOTHING
it dont hurt my feeling.......cost me a damn thing & all i got to do is wait
tiime is on my side.................the shit ive seen torn up on this site
just from adding testosterone +adrenaline= the drug of stupidity
aint no NEW Ground being broken sprayin & racing a 12
asking about slipper clutches = 3 decades old........sprayin =2 decades old
big bore kits= 5 decades old....................breaking parts = since forever
& worst of all bad set up.... bad mechanicing...........since forever ! !! ! ! ! ! ! !! ! !
no NEW Ground at all
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posted December 19, 2008 01:58 PM
Flite, the only reason my motor had pistons hitting valves was due to me not hitting the shift button soon enough and hitting the rev limiter. THATS IT! so you can stop your condesending remarks about me and my work. it takes a LOT to really piss me off but you have done it. dont ever post in any thread i ever start again. you are absolutely the most negative and know it all smart ass ive ever seen on bikeland with no proof to back up your statements. im done with you. Its very obvious I can get as much tech info as i need from nice people on this forum like Karl, Tim, Doug, Jim, JC, VH, Gary, Shane, the list goes on and on...
Time is on my side, stick around and watch my progress, 07 rookie of the yr, 08 broke the et and mph records in my class. 09??
welcome to my ignore list. GO FUCK YOURSELF. 
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posted December 19, 2008 02:06 PM
Edited By: entropy on 19 Dec 2008 22:14
I don't think that Flite knows what squish is....
bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Flite,
you are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fukken out to lunch, i am enjoying the hell out it. 
You are like those deranged street people with a shopping cart full o' cans & shit, standing on a corner yelling stuff. I always give them a few bux cause they entertain me.
Gimme an address and i'll send you a few bux.
(crumpled ones OK???)
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posted December 19, 2008 03:27 PM
Still laughing my ass off, and I don't have any to spare. And Scott you are sooooooooooo right about the extremely smart and talented people on this sight wwho are willing to help us in any way that they can. They know who they are and so do we because their pudding has been overwhelmingly proven time and time again. So not let fright leader get your blood boiling. From what I can tell that is his whole purpose for posting to begin with. He has a pervese need to start drama and piss people off and then he sits back comforted as he watches people get pissed. This is so obvious about him that is what makes me laugh so hard. Anyway he probably doesnt even have a squish stick and if he does it is probably squished beyond being of any use to anyone. Speaking of out to lunch Karl, tuna squish anyone?
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posted December 19, 2008 06:42 PM
Flite, you said:
"aint no NEW Ground being broken sprayin & racing a 12"
You will eat those words in 2009 and it won't be just me.
Sincerely,
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posted December 20, 2008 08:57 AM
scott when i made my first comments its unfortunate you took them personal
i simply was commenting on the pix you presented........& THAT EVIDENCE
i didnt even comment on the photo where it looked like piston to valve contact
simply because the photo was bad....................i usually like to know what im talking about
it was obvvious about the spit shim tho........................& i commented on it Accurately
& the rev limiter
its obvious looking at ALL the pix there was a Lot wrong with the engine
as i said b4 i had no desire rto drop the hammer on you
there is always the desire to go Faster
yet overall you probably are down 25-40 HP on that engine set up
with that you would go Faster !!
there is no doubt in my mind there is someone near to you that is a methodical.... meticulous engine builder.........................or at least someone that specializes in cranks...... head work etc could show you what you need to learn & know
bowed valves springs WILL fail
valves smacking pistons WILL Fail
spit shims WILL fail
spaghetti cranks WILL Fail
& none of them have anything to do with you running Nitrous or running Hard
but ALL to do with set up & Maintenance
am i to believe the valves were smacking the pistons & the shims were properly clearanced
proper clearance & they touched
something is mightily wrong ! ! ! ! ! !!!!!
thats why i brought up the crank issue.....................both of those cylinders rise & fall at the SAME time
valves properly shimmed should be NO Where near the pistons
there again unless you degreed your cams wrong
still another of TOOOOOOOOO Many problems
you can try to gain 20 or 30 HP over the 25-40 your are throwing away
& as long as you are going faster its a confirmation............................to you anyway
UNTIL YOU BREAK
that engine was going to let go
that spit shim & the fact the rev limiter [already delineated]
saved you from a big break & meltdown & more part$$$$$$
putting it together the SAME Way this time is only putting makeup
on an UGLY Pig
now i know its expected that talkin smak is part of racin
all the good ones i know never did
& expecting me to tell all what mountain motor id build if i had a wish list
misses the point all together
you need a smarter tighter build
& then you will go faster................much faster
& be a hell a lot more reliable
now its near xmas
& for various reasons people celebrate
its going to be rufff on many unexpectedly & for many ruffer than that
thru NO fault of their own
im going to close this down on my part
cause if there is no reason..................no openess or will to learn
an honest exchange of info/knowledge CANT take place
out of repect to the season & good will
i hope all will have a good holiday season & a better new year
& shane......" ive forgotten more than u will ever know"
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posted December 20, 2008 06:58 PM
Flite, you don't KNOW what Shane KNOWS , and he doesn't know what you know. But those of us on the board know he's gone 9.3 on a stock motored naturally aspireted zx14 on pump gas in the 1/4 and went 190 at Maxton....UNTUNED. And those of us that actually frequent these tracks know he's OVER 200 lbs so he isn't exactly incapable, which directly implies he isn't exactly dumb. Those are REAL NUMBERS that can be SUBSTANTIATED, have been DOCUMENTED and can easily be PROVEN. I bring that up because he at least has something to bring to the table and has "cred" on the board. He doesn't hide behind a keyboard, he's not some anonymous keyboard racer. We've seen him go from mediocre racer to respectable, wheras I haven't seen anyone vouch for ya.
But like you said, out of respect for the season & good will best to give it all a rest. Take it easy, maybe you can hop on something in the 200 mph range and meet up w/us at a race. More fun than smack talk on the boards all day long.
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posted December 21, 2008 08:09 PM
6 pages.. this tread fuggin DELIVERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
i loves it..
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