KZScott
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posted November 29, 2008 02:42 AM
progressive nitrous
whats a good inexpensive controller? Im looking at the Schnitz 2 dial... I really dont want to pulse the solenoids a lot, but i dont really see many options. thinking of trying a 100 shot(maybe more? 120?) in my wet kit. I have a Schnitz rpm window switch set to activate nitrous in second gear. if i wait till second i shouldnt need very much ramp time right? would I even need the controller? I know i should start spraying in first to get the most out of it, but I dont want to pulse the solenoids much....I have a dry shot i could use in first gear. is there a way to turn that off in second when the wet kit turns on ? a couple relays?
thx 
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Shane661
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posted November 29, 2008 05:52 AM
My advice is to keep it as simple as possible.
I would also consider what advantages ramping the nitrous might have for engine longevity. How quickly do you want your cylinder pressures and temps to rise?
I'm not a nitrous expert, obviously...but sometimes less is more. I would use a smaller progressive shot and maximize it's potential. You have an 8 second capable bike without the spray.
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dougmeyer
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posted November 29, 2008 09:39 AM
Schnitz box
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KZScott
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posted November 29, 2008 02:00 PM
I like trying to complicate stuff lol 
you make a good point about the cylinder temp/pressure. no wonder the turbo guys get away with so much power....
I know i change my mind more than anyone, but maybe it would be best to run the progressive wet shot from first gear. dad wouldnt object to the dry kit going on his bar bike. we could hit that in first with the bars easy....
whats a good starting point for the 2 dial on a 100 shot? 20% with a 1.5 sec ramp??
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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SteddyTeddy
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posted November 30, 2008 10:22 AM
I have a like new Edelbrock progressive that may be up for sale in a couple days. I offered it to someone but haven't heard anything back yet.
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KZScott
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posted November 30, 2008 03:33 PM
thanks Teddy, but I have a Schnitz 2 dial on the way. there was one listed for sale on psychobike. any ideas on how it should be set up for % and ramp time?
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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almost_les
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posted November 30, 2008 05:18 PM
 Edited By: almost_les on 1 Dec 2008 01:18
200% start, 0.0 sec. build time
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SteddyTeddy
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posted November 30, 2008 07:00 PM
I have mine setup at 10% and about 2sec ramp time with a 50 shot but I'm no pro.
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KZScott
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posted December 01, 2008 01:15 AM
quote:
200% start, 0.0 sec. build time
reminds me of the dynotune kit(you get double the hp they say you do)
you spray in first Teddy?
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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posted December 01, 2008 02:08 AM
KZScott
the 2dail works fine !!!
the 5 dial --- also easy -- better to adjust !!!!!!!!!!
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KZScott
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posted December 01, 2008 03:46 AM
got a Schnitz 2 dial on the way
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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SteddyTeddy
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posted December 01, 2008 04:53 AM
I had mine hooked on a WOT switch. It was spraying by the 60' mark.
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