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posted February 28, 2008 07:38 PM
BTW, single stage, two stage, same thing, we call em different things........
I did that with no pc, no pipe..............., with a good track, I could get you 1.29 I think, at least 1.30 or 1.31, with an average size rider, no prob, with a pipe and PC. Whose two step are you using?
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posted February 28, 2008 07:43 PM
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we wont be getting a multi. the "single stage" MTC has can be setup as a 2 stage or 3 stage. theres 6 arms. the instructions actually call it a dual stage i think. i got one to use on the blue bike, and we will be looking for one for the silver/black bike
Never really read all the details in this thread........, I will explain why you are way off on how this can be set up when we talk in the future..........
Make him eat only tuna , celery, carrots, a litle PB, and water for a couple of weeks. I can drop 5 lbs a week doing this. Back down to 160 now. Its hard for me to get past that. When it gets hot, I hope to make 155, and 170 suited again.
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posted February 28, 2008 08:21 PM
we are putting a 7" MT on it. any idea how much it will grow at speed? i need to know how long to make the strut (to determine clearance above wheel)
i really think it will be fine with these extensions. they are solid billet. plus the bars arent connected to the axle like the pingle brackets that came with it. (different than Roys, I saw his setup, so I know what you are talking about) I would think the weak link would be the end of the stock arm, but thats being braced with the new mounts im making.
I thought that if you put different weights on the arms it acted like different stages. for example, what i was calling a 3 stage: 2 opposite arms have bolt, two washers and a nut, 2 opposite arms have just a bolt and nut, and the remaining 2 arms are empty
oh, theres an old gs1100 that has a 1428 kit and the works. slick n bar, slider, 2step ect. cuts 1.23 60fts (I know cause its on one of my time slips) damn it would be nice to leave like that! even close to that hard is haulin ass... i think hes running a 10 inch slick though...his mph wasnt as good as mine, so it might be overkill and slowing him down on top end??or maybe hes just not making the power a stock 12r does 
i really doubt he would go for that diet lol. it was hard enough to get him off of sweets. so im going to try and get him doing some (much needed) cardio. i might try that diet out for a couple weeks before the big shootout in sept. a few yrs ago i weighed in at 205. im at 165 now. being 6' doesnt help being light lol
oh, just about done the tail. a bit more work at the bottom and it goes on the bar bike
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posted February 28, 2008 08:33 PM
ground clearance will the the main thing, or at least it was with me, I would say an inch and a half would be safe, thats about what I ran, check your email......, sent ya some pics of my Pro ET zx12
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posted February 28, 2008 08:34 PM
Oh, and your theory is decent on the clutch, but not as good as you would think. I will explain in detail in the future........
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posted February 28, 2008 08:46 PM
cool, thx man. got the email 
we are cutting the oil pan and plastics. hopefully the lowest part will be either the muzzy sidewinder or the shock linkage
Ill be talking to you about the clutch setup when we get it rolling. gotta beat that gs lol
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posted February 28, 2008 08:51 PM
what et does it run?
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posted February 28, 2008 09:02 PM
he dialed in a 8.65 this is his run
60 1.23
330 3.46
mid 127
660 5.43
990 7.14
MPH 142
ET 8.73
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posted February 28, 2008 09:15 PM
Thats a lot of mph in the 1/8. He wont beat that weighing over 180, and stock motor.
330 to 1/8 mile, he is running harder than me...., 60 to 330, it is running HARD. that bike has a ton of low end. DIes out up top though......
We will work on it and give it our best........
What gearing are you using? I have a 54 and 56 toofer for sale......, you will need one of em.....
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posted February 28, 2008 09:50 PM
 Edited By: KZScott on 28 Feb 2008 21:54
was going to try 16 55. got a 16, and was going to order the 55 thru Schnitz,
pm me your prices, how new are the sprockets?
it wont be a totally stock motor, but pretty damn close. muzzy dummy shaft is supposed to be good for 2-3 hp and ill be cleaning up the head like i did to mine.
oh, and extended ecu too
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00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
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posted February 28, 2008 09:54 PM
I have heard bad stories about the dummy shaft....
Thought about using one, but was scared to
pm sent
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posted February 29, 2008 07:53 AM
Stories like what Nox I have one in mine but crank was balanced at APE
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posted February 29, 2008 09:47 AM
the counter balancer doesnt affect the primary crank balance, its not like a harmonic damper on a v8
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posted February 29, 2008 11:20 AM
something about oiling....
What did you gain HP wise?
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posted February 29, 2008 09:21 PM
yeah, add the extra 2 oil squirters in the case if you put in the dummy shaft
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00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted February 29, 2008 09:29 PM
explain?
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posted February 29, 2008 09:38 PM
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=13&TID=36366&set_time=
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00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
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posted March 12, 2008 11:30 AM
got a little bit done. undertail is pretty much wrapped up.
we hacked up the passenger peg brackets and mocked up the pegs on the swingarm
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00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
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posted March 12, 2008 12:59 PM
Are you going to run a shock WITH the wheelie bars Scott????Or a strut??
P....
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posted March 12, 2008 01:25 PM
making a strut out of 2x2 square aluminum tubing(once i get a slick mounted on the rim to see how low it can go)
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00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted March 12, 2008 02:39 PM
I have a strut already made I think........
Really to work well, your bars should be longer..........., it will be kinda twitchy as those are........
Your bar length, should be about the wb of the bike......, from center of bar axle to center of rear axle........, ie, 64 inch bike, should have at least a 60 inch bar length....., which would mean bars that were longer than that to mount up properly........
Just trying to help out, not trying to get too much in your Koolaid
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posted March 12, 2008 05:26 PM
allready have the tubing, just need to cut it to length and weld a couple tabs on either end. I know the bars should be longer, i was told the smoothest launching bikes had bars a bit longer than wb. but this will do for a starting out season. ill measure the setup we have going now to see where its at exactly
I appreciate the input
im more of a gatorade guy myself
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00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted March 12, 2008 07:21 PM
I ran 64 ", and a bar measurement of 64" from rear axle to bar axle.......
I like the rounded wheels better than the flat ones.......
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posted March 13, 2008 10:18 AM
NOX is correct,but most organizations only allow wheelie bar length not to exceed the wheel base of the motorcycle(axle to axle then rear axle to bar axle)...But YES longer bars are alot smoother..I like to go 1" longer than wheel base though...(wink)...LOL..JMO..
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posted March 13, 2008 06:29 PM
Yeah, thats why I ran 64 with 64.......
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