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posted December 28, 2007 08:20 AM
 Edited By: entropy on 29 Dec 2007 20:41
Woo-hoo!!! results on build # 11 for 2007
My heap successfully took the 1st heat cycle pretty early this morning.
i am moderately sure my neighbors love that sound as much as I do.
anyone wanna guess how 105/105 CL's will compare on the dyno with the 108/110 of build #10???
BIG prize to the winner!
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Seth ZX12r UK
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posted December 28, 2007 09:06 AM
spill the beans entropy
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entropy
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posted December 28, 2007 09:10 AM
seth,
i can't spill the beans cause i haven't taken it to the dyno yet, maybe tomorrow
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shane661
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posted December 28, 2007 09:21 AM
What happened to build #10...did it fail?
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entropy
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posted December 28, 2007 10:38 AM
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What happened to build #10...did it fail?
nope, #10 was the breakthrough build
Thanks go to build/perf advice from Tim Chin & Y2K and DarkFalcon's stealth cam/port configuration.
234STD on Johnny Cheese dyno, with JC tune.
The teardown was basically a health check, although a coupla minor issues got handled.
#11 is for cam tests.
We're gonna wring the fukker's neck on Andy's FP dyno tomorrow and see if there are a few more hp hiding 
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posted December 28, 2007 11:34 AM
Edited By: tcchin on 28 Dec 2007 11:36
I will have to say that you build motors at a furious pace! How do you have time to wring your hands if they constantly have tools in them???
So how does this motor sound?
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posted December 28, 2007 11:57 AM
Edited By: Texas12R on 28 Dec 2007 11:57
I said I would hate living in Houston every time I went to see my sister.....
But I didnt know this Karl guy was in Mo city building ground-bound missles 
Now my sister lives in Addison.....damn the luck!
I would like to see Karls compilation of data.
You could call it .........." ZX-Files"..........
Or...... Do one more build......(Plenty of time for Karl to squeeze one in this Year)
Call it "The Dirty Dozen..........Starring.....Karl......Johnny......Tim.......Jim....RR...AKA ....Merlin
Is the writer strike still on out in Hollywierd????
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TRNorBRN6001
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posted December 28, 2007 01:06 PM
Nice!! Let me know if you head over to JC's on Sat or Sun. I think he is just starting
to get over his walking pneumonia.
How did CR go for the new motor? Got my fingers crossed for 240+ HP.
Andy's going to SH*T his pants when he breaks that sucker in!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My idiots guess, 105/105 - nice shift to the left with good TQ, 108/112 - HP shift to the right
good dyno queen numbers for that soon to be 13,000 RPM goal.
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KZScott
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posted December 28, 2007 01:13 PM
my guess, 204-205 on the factory pro?
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00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
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posted December 28, 2007 02:52 PM
hp will go down and torque be a broader curve.
BUT>>>>>>>>
with higher comp more hp and more torque. but not so peaky more curvey
and yes today I went to the shop and felt normal,back home now but will be back in the morning.
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entropy
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posted December 28, 2007 06:56 PM
Edited By: entropy on 28 Dec 2007 19:18
WHOA!!!!!!
JC, YOU had pneumonia????!!!!!!!!
YIKES!!!!
shitty way to spend Christmas 
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posted December 28, 2007 07:38 PM
ouch, being sick on the holidays is the worst
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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KZScott
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posted December 28, 2007 07:52 PM
how high is the CR now? up to 16:1 yet? :P
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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posted December 29, 2007 05:58 PM
Edited By: entropy on 30 Dec 2007 04:55
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BUT>>>>>>>>
with higher comp more hp and more torque. but not so peaky more curvey
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JohnnyCheese WINS!!! the general description
KZ WINS!!! for predicting 204-205
we actually saw 210-211hp, but when corrected to FactoryPro SAE the numbers came down 2.5%
CR was 15.7, now 16.2; Muzzy ProPipe in both cases
more hp & tq everywhere, tq curve flattened out
______Dec 7______Dec 29 Metric MC, FactoryPro Dyno, (add 15-20% to get equiv Dynojet numbers)
___hp (108/110)__hp(105/105)
4k___(54)________64
5k____78________85
6k____97________102
7k____126_______138
8k____163_______168
9k____184_______190
10k___197.5______200.3
10.5k__ (NA)______201.9
11k___195.5______200.2
11.5k _196.0______204.2
12k___196.3______204.4
Best of all, it didn't blow up!!
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posted December 29, 2007 06:45 PM
WOW... great job Karl.
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KZScott
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posted December 29, 2007 10:45 PM
COOL !
what do i win? :P
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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posted December 30, 2007 08:49 AM
Very nice numbers. EC997 seem to run about 15% lower so you really do have a beast! Odd that the HP would go down near the upper RPM's with the LC's being lower...
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osti33
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posted December 30, 2007 10:01 AM
Great job Karl! 
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posted December 30, 2007 12:26 PM
Real Nice numbers!!
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entropy
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posted December 30, 2007 12:50 PM
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Very nice numbers. EC997 seem to run about 15% lower so you really do have a beast! Odd that the HP would go down near the upper RPM's with the LC's being lower...
in my near back to back DJ vs FP on my motor, i run 18-20% higher on DJ.
nuke, where do you see hp dropping???
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posted December 30, 2007 04:34 PM
Damn fine job, Karl. Now go get that thing on the track before winter gets here! LOL
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entropy
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posted December 30, 2007 05:16 PM
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Damn fine job, Karl. Now go get that thing on the track before winter gets here! LOL
hey Ken!
i'm not planning any track time till the Texas Mile on Mar29/30. I wanna find how far we can stretch this thing.
Maybe we are there, maybe not???
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posted December 30, 2007 06:42 PM
Who is this Ken fella?
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posted December 30, 2007 06:52 PM
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Who is this Ken fella?
hey, sleepybusa, you know Ken. He used to race the Texas Shootout, 1361 (1375?). He sure made that thing run way back when...
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posted December 31, 2007 03:55 PM
Chris, is that you? I´m currently south of the equator or vacation where the water goes counterclockwise down the drain. Money too. Summer is just beginning here in Peru.
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