jus1975
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posted July 27, 2007 08:44 PM
guidance on turbocharging
I want to build a my own turbo system for a kz1000 with either a draw thru or blow thru system. I need guidance as far as turbo specs and carb specs,etc.
  
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johnnycheese
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posted July 28, 2007 03:45 AM
Why?
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KZScott
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posted July 30, 2007 09:47 AM
www.kzrider.com
www.mrturbo.com
www.750turbo.com
give those a try. look for ape jay, lorcan, steell, wireman...they know their stuff
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00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
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VincentHill
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posted July 30, 2007 10:45 AM
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Why?
I think a better question is "What For"? (The kind of usage expected? Drag, Street or what?)
Why sounds like Why would anyone want to do this? Is that what you meat?
We all know the Z1R TC! The only problem was (Maybe not such a problem now because of George and his war) is you could not ride the bike if you had a left leg! Now that has been taken care of a great bike!
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oldkawboy
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posted July 31, 2007 09:12 AM
 Edited By: oldkawboy on 31 Jul 2007 10:13
You might also try the ZRXOA forum under the turbo section. There is a wealth of knowledge from the guys building turbo ZRX's.
Dan
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VincentHill
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posted July 31, 2007 12:18 PM
Edited By: VincentHill on 31 Jul 2007 13:18
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You might also try the ZRXOA forum under the turbo section. There is a wealth of knowledge from the guys building turbo ZRX's.
Dan
Not like you are lacking much information, Mr. Build almost from Scratch Turbo ZRX1100!
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oldkawboy
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posted July 31, 2007 06:13 PM
Ahh Jeez Vince, you're making me blush. :-)
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VincentHill
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posted August 01, 2007 08:04 AM
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Ahh Jeez Vince, you're making me blush. :-)
Dan
At least it is not the other way around which is REALLY Difficult! 
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GUNNER
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posted August 02, 2007 06:40 PM
Best advise is DON'T DO IT
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VincentHill
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posted August 03, 2007 06:43 AM
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Best advise is DON'T DO IT
Are you saying that he does not know that he may spend the rest of his life on that project? That it is no where as easy as a ZRX or Busa? That even the RICH cannot afford it? The level of Difficulty is 10.0?
Exactly what are you saying ??
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DR JOE
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posted August 03, 2007 08:48 AM
Contact Sandy Jones in Wagoner Oklahome. He built a test mule bike that was a KZ1000 street bike that he used to build a turbo system for his Top gas bike, small tire. I think Nick won the 03 or 04 season championship on the bike.
He built the whole system him self from scratch and could give you hints or suggestions on what to do.
Good luck,
Doc.
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zrxdean
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posted August 03, 2007 09:20 PM
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Best advise is DON'T DO IT
WTF?
Boost done correctly is always a good thing.
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VincentHill
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posted August 04, 2007 05:37 AM
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Best advise is DON'T DO IT
WTF?
Boost done correctly is always a good thing.
Note his Handle ZRX Dean!! ALso OldKawboy did it on a ZRX!
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jus1975
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posted August 05, 2007 07:46 AM
Its just something I want to try for street use. I just need to know some turbo specs for this project and carb specs and tuning advise. I want some high horsepower to surprise my friends that don't think these old bikes can run. I know I cant beat them, but I can scare the hell out of them from stop light to light and maybe beat them. I have seen some guys with 8 second and high 9 second turbo bikes that they can ride on the street. Thats my goal.
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VincentHill
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posted August 05, 2007 08:17 AM
Then Take a VERY Serious Look at a ZRX for Turbo! Easier than a ZX12R by light years and will seriously run in the low 9's with extended arm and in your price range like OldKawboy said look at the ZRXOA Web site under turbocharging!
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jus1975
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posted August 05, 2007 09:54 PM
I sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. The turbo is for a Z1R, not a ZX12R.
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VincentHill
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posted August 06, 2007 05:00 AM
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I sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. The turbo is for a Z1R, not a ZX12R.
You were clear but I think being on this site helped us forget! That is alot easier thing to do and check with Mr. Turbo for an Affordable kit
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TRNorBRN6001
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posted August 06, 2007 05:47 AM
Yep, like Mr. Hill said, Mr. Turbo might just have an old kit hanging in the back shed
for you. If not, they have been doing it for so long that they might be able to help you
out.
Maybe a two stage set up might work better for you on the street so that when your
just riding around you can run lower boost on pump gas, and then when you know
you will be running your buddies on the weekends then you can slip some C16 or
C23 and run a touch higher boost. Just don't be disappointed with the HP and
dismayed by the cost.
Good Luck! Be sure to post up some picks.
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VincentHill
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posted August 07, 2007 09:10 AM
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Just don't be disappointed with the HP and
dismayed by the cost.
Good Luck! Be sure to post up some picks.
Words to live by! A Cheap Kit is $3 to $5,000 and then the fun begins!
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jus1975
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posted August 07, 2007 06:26 PM
Yeah I know that 3500 is cheap and thats the price Mr Turbo gave me. I just wanted to know the specs on the turbos used for my application. What size, .ar and compressor,etc. What kind of carb and what changes to the carb for turbo application. Mr Turbo wouldn't share the info. I cant blame them. I have accessto many different turbos and a guy that can fab up the header. So I was hoping to piece together a kit cheaply and if not cheap at least not all at once.
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johnnycheese
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posted August 07, 2007 06:46 PM
again why?
a Z1 is about on a good day 80hp rearwheel even at 20psi you end up at 188.
heck just use the 3K to by a zx14 and you are there plus the susp and brakes are totally better.
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jus1975
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posted August 07, 2007 08:58 PM
No Offense, but I want to. If I wanted a zx14 then I would buy one.
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jus1975
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posted August 13, 2007 07:54 PM
dont give up on me yet. I need info.
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VincentHill
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posted August 14, 2007 07:56 AM
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dont give up on me yet. I need info.
Johnny Cheese is just speaking from Experience! His on everyone's project he has had to finish for them! Understand that the Quickest Motorcycle in the world is based on a KZ1000 Engine. With that roller Crank and built like a truck, you can make about 150 HP and have a lot of fun in the SHort races! We are all hard headed here and along with Karl, I may lead the bunch!
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jus1975
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posted August 26, 2007 06:44 PM
I appreciate everyones help I just dont want to get on the wrong side. I just needed some help choosing the correct sized turbo. When running high boost do you need to run higher graded fuel. Even if I decide to go with low compression pistons.
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