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woppi


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posted July 10, 2007 08:30 AM        
how to kill a wet nos system f. shifting ??

ZX12r

how to kill a wet nos system for shifting ?? with an air shifter ???

please need infos

thx
woppi


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SteddyTeddy


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posted July 10, 2007 08:58 AM        
I shift right through it running a 50 shot. No big bang unless I hit the limiter.
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VincentHill


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posted July 10, 2007 01:39 PM        
I think Muzzy has a fuel Kill set up! That to me is better than the Ignition and then the load up of fuel and the Huge Bangs when Shifting. With the Ignition Kill you need to let off the NOS Button when Shifting and that helps also
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Texas12R


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posted July 10, 2007 09:12 PM        
If you run the pc3 usb..the hub option allows for triggering two outputs at a
user determined rpm/throttle position. just a thought......actually the way I want to do it
im just so slow getting anything done

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woppi


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posted July 10, 2007 11:24 PM        
the muzzy digi kill, kills the stock fuel + stock ign. !! ok

i have no pc3 !!

for the wet nos system, i have a micro switch mounted, switched at full throttle !

thinking about shifting at full throttle with my wet nos system !! without backfire ???

what can i do ??

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woppi

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BlackMagic14


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posted July 11, 2007 12:05 AM        
I would think that killing the fue with the muzzy digi Kill would be BAD!!! considering you would continue to spray nitrous and not fuel that just might!!! creat an extremem lean condition which would be bad
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SteddyTeddy


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posted July 11, 2007 04:23 AM        
Run your map extra rich and you will have no problems. I know of about 3 people on 14's running dry shots with the muzzy shifters. The only guys at the track that are making big boom's are shooting 100 shots or better.
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woppi


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posted July 11, 2007 05:18 AM        
@SteddyTeddy

i run a wet system !!!

woppi

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SteddyTeddy


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posted July 11, 2007 06:01 AM        
I do too. If your just running up to a 50 shot, make sure your running just on the rich side and shift through it. My air shifter shifts pretty fast and I have had not problems.
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VincentHill


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posted July 11, 2007 07:14 AM        
Without a COmplete Kill of everything you cannot eliminate the Bang! Saying that, do you "Only" Have the 100% Switch? I found that to be very hard to ride without the Button also because you are spraying NOS at the Hit. If you used the 2 Button set up with 1 for shifting and 1 for NOS you would have to let go of the NOS to shift and that would take care of your problem
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SteddyTeddy


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posted July 11, 2007 07:47 AM        Edited By: SteddyTeddy on 11 Jul 2007 08:48
2 buttons is too much to keep track of. I'm using a progressive with a WOT switch. Like I said, I get no Bang. Just fast and faster.
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ninja12


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posted July 11, 2007 10:54 AM        Edited By: ninja12 on 11 Jul 2007 11:57
Even if you could kill the nitrous to shift.
The lines are full of nitrous under pressure and would not empty in time to shift.
The shift takes milli seconds. The engine take close to a second after you relese the
button to empty the lines, especially a dry fogger system. Direct injection will respond quicker but unless you have the solenoid mounted very very close with extremely short lines
you have no chance of killing quick enought to prevent bang.
You could use a window switch and kill nitrous 2-300 rpm before your shift point.
Most people use good valve springs and shift thru the spray, and bang.

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zrexpilot


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posted July 13, 2007 03:51 AM        
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Even if you could kill the nitrous to shift.
The lines are full of nitrous under pressure and would not empty in time to shift.
The shift takes milli seconds. The engine take close to a second after you relese the
button to empty the lines, especially a dry fogger system. Direct injection will respond quicker but unless you have the solenoid mounted very very close with extremely short lines
you have no chance of killing quick enought to prevent bang.
You could use a window switch and kill nitrous 2-300 rpm before your shift point.
Most people use good valve springs and shift thru the spray, and bang.



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