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posted July 20, 2006 04:04 PM
 Edited By: madmike on 21 Jul 2006 13:10
What not to do on a new 14
We had a huge payout race a month or so ago at the home track, my buddy just bought this 14............
http://www.shurvalu.com/zx14.wmv
How on earth he came out okay, I will never know..........
I took the bounty for the fastest Kaw, 7.61 at 1000 ft, no dope, $300 bucks, ......., and $750 for the open class bracket win............
He took home a load of crap in his underwear I am sure.........
This is the bike that is on the current King of the Track flyer......., that was pitted next to me at RRR at the June event.......
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warbird
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posted July 20, 2006 05:42 PM
http://www.shurvalu.com/zx14.wmv
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posted July 20, 2006 05:46 PM
Wow.............was that guy ever lucky.................. 
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posted July 20, 2006 06:22 PM
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Wow.............was that guy ever lucky..................
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posted July 20, 2006 06:56 PM
Sure is, but I bet his leg is hurting him!!!
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NOX
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posted July 20, 2006 07:03 PM
yeah, it did not feel to good.........
He went home, took the arm off, and sent it to Doug Ray!!!!!!!!
with the arm, he got it into the 7s at 1000ft, but it needs a lot of help......, set up is way off on it still, but he is gaining........
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posted July 21, 2006 07:15 AM
So I guess he was going 9.50-40s...
7.61 @ the 1000' is nice ETs for a stock motor 
My fastest 1000' is 7.68 @ 60" wheelbase...Went a 7.73 last week!!!
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posted July 21, 2006 10:15 AM
Okay this is why NHRA and other motorcycle associations will not allow you to hard strap the front end down with no travel. If you noticed the bike wheeles in low gear and is okay but when he hits second gear the bike wheeles again and the front end drifts to the left and when it sets down this snaps the bike back to the right causing this high speed wobble. Several of the pro riders have been thrown off like this. We strap our bike like this but im always afraid this could happen. If you do this do not allow the bike to wheele off direction. Notice the rider trying to counter balance the bike with his right leg.
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madmike
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posted July 21, 2006 12:15 PM
a steering dampiner will do wonders also!!!
ask Bergie and a few others...
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NOX
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posted July 21, 2006 12:18 PM
My last NHRA rule book allowed a strap.........
I think they are dangerous, but, just saying........
I have been 7.58, with a 1.45 short time............, in 3000 ft air.........., I can do 1.37s but they are violent with a 5 speed, going to 6 speeds, and gonna try to calm it down........
He was doing 9.7s and 9.8s at RRR
He weighs 100 lbs more than me, total package..........
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posted July 21, 2006 03:16 PM
I thought maybe he hit the front brake somehow??
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NOX
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posted July 21, 2006 07:43 PM
no, front end straped, and came down a little crooked...........
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posted July 21, 2006 09:37 PM
it really does not matter if you have a strap or not and come down with the wheel cocked... and actually a strap is going to act like a mini steering dampiner and will help in a tank slapper....
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posted July 22, 2006 09:02 PM
12's and 14's should have steering dampers, racing or not...period.
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posted July 22, 2006 10:31 PM
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12's and 14's should have steering dampers, racing or not...period.
i never felt the need to buy a damper for my 12
i feel differently about my 14 though.
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posted July 23, 2006 12:18 AM
I find that totally the opposite the 14 feels planted and stable at high speed, something my 12R never really did...
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NOX
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posted July 23, 2006 10:42 AM
My 12 always felt fine, but I have one to pass tech...........
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posted July 23, 2006 02:10 PM
looks to me like he dumped the throttle when it came up a lil bit, maybe came down cocked, and stayed outa the throttle. If he'd pinned it, i becha he could have avoided the slapper.
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posted July 23, 2006 06:57 PM
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looks to me like he dumped the throttle when it came up a lil bit, maybe came down cocked, and stayed outa the throttle. If he'd pinned it, i becha he could have avoided the slapper.
thats what i was thinking.
having body parts flopping around usually exagerates the situation too.
Squeeze the tank with knees, stiffen torso and arms, and pin it! Dirtbike style! LOL
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posted July 25, 2006 01:41 PM
Dude. Been there done that about 4 years ago, except mine went bad, real bad.
Get a damper, and leave at least an inch or two travel on the front when strapped.
My 1/8th mile trap printed as 120mph (on the back tire), when I set it down it got violent. Long story short- the bike finished the 1/4 at 26mph by itself on it's right side  and I ended up at the 1000' mark in the opposite lane with two broken wrists, and a broken leg/ankle.
Did I mention get a damper?
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