VincentHill
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posted March 30, 2006 08:42 AM
Where do you get your Manual Cam chain Adjustor?
I just got some and was looking to see what the prices were and every where I looked, None were available! Did not see them at Muzzys, Schnitz, APE, Brock, MRE or anywhere.
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posted March 30, 2006 10:56 AM
that is weird, Schnitz used to have them
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posted March 30, 2006 11:42 AM
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that is weird, Schnitz used to have them
I was Shocked tro see that "No one of the usual people carried them specially APE!
Let me know if you find anyone selling them because I sure do not want to be over priced when I sell mine
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posted March 30, 2006 11:50 PM
IMO, I think no ones got them, because you don't need them.
After working the "how do I adjust the manual cam tensioner" issue to death, i took the advice of Osti & others and went back to the OEM. Over tightening the manual tensioner will destroy the cam chain and slipper guides. OEM works perfectly on 4.6mm stroker.
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posted March 31, 2006 05:30 AM
I have never used anything other then the stock...
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posted March 31, 2006 07:42 AM
At Gainesville 2003, I saw "1" Stock Tensioner that went bad. Thats all, just one! the problem is, it cost the engine.
On the Street I would use nothing less than the Stock set up, but for 300 HP and the fact that the adjustor can be in between notches and be too lose  I will take the time to adjust the manual tensioner. The 10 minutes and $50 are worth while insurance
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MadMike
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posted March 31, 2006 01:10 PM
Hey Vince are you talking about Bear's? if so I dont think it was the Tensioner, I think he spit a shim... but maybe we are talking different..
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posted April 01, 2006 01:23 PM
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Hey Vince are you talking about Bear's? if so I dont think it was the Tensioner, I think he spit a shim... but maybe we are talking different..
YES< there was also evidence that the Adjustor had backed up also when they went to reassemble the engine
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posted April 01, 2006 02:12 PM
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i didnt think its possible for the stocker to "back up" when on the bike?
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posted April 01, 2006 09:51 PM
I am not saying it could not happen, but I along with YCIS did not think it could happen...
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posted April 01, 2006 11:04 PM
Vince you do remember the old ZX11 tensioner trick dont ya?
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posted April 02, 2006 07:06 AM
You know what the more that I have thought about it... HarryZX12R did have one fail... I think his center pin broke or came out? and he did not do any damage, BUT he had to pull it and "VW RIG" it and then he was ok...
so I stand corrected....
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posted April 13, 2006 01:01 PM
Are you talking about the "Adjustor Bolt " screwed into the back of the adkustor?
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posted October 02, 2006 09:21 AM
Manual Cam Chain Tensioners
Manual Cam Chain Tensioners
Manual cam chain tensioners are designed to
replace the automatic and hydraulic tensioners on
high performance engines. The automatic adjusters
can back out when the throttle is closed suddenly at
high rpm. This allows the cams to go momentarely
out of time, and can result in bent valves and/or
serious engine damage. Hydraulic tensioners have a
tendency to put too much tension on the chain
guide under high rpm/high oil pressure conditions,
resulting in premature wear.
Both problems can be eliminated with the installation
of the manual tensioner. No mater what the
engine does, the cam chain tension will remain
constant. A manual cam chain tensioner is a
must for any kind of performance riding.
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posted October 02, 2006 08:38 PM
MIne has hundreds, probably 4 or 5 hundered on it........., stock. I hear bad things about the manuals........
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posted October 02, 2006 11:19 PM
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MIne has hundreds, probably 4 or 5 hundered on it........., stock. I hear bad things about the manuals........
ditto!
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posted October 03, 2006 05:44 AM
I did have a stock tensioner snap the roll pin at deals gap several years ago. I tried to buy a new one (tensioner)at the dealers but they didn't have one in stock so I took the shank of a drill bit the correct dia and cut me a pin off of it. It's still in my original 12 and it works great. A solid pin is much stronger than a roll pin. We used drill bit shanks all the time to replace roll pins when i was in the USAF. You just have to stake them in the hole using a center punch so they don't fall out.
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posted October 03, 2006 09:12 AM
you can break that pin by NOT pushing the plunger all the way in before mounting it., ask me how I know that 
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posted October 03, 2006 12:24 PM
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MIne has hundreds, probably 4 or 5 hundered on it........., stock. I hear bad things about the manuals........
ditto!
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posted October 03, 2006 01:56 PM
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you can break that pin by NOT pushing the plunger all the way in before mounting it., ask me how I know that
Before you do anything on a 12, email Karl, if it can be broken, or blown up, he has done it...........
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posted October 03, 2006 07:09 PM
For what it's worth...........my pin also broke on my stock tensioner. Luckily, no damage.
I'm using a manual one now but I'm always wondering if I have it adjusted okay.
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posted October 04, 2006 12:59 AM
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Before you do anything on a 12, email Karl, if it can be broken, or blown up, he has done it...........
NOX:
nope, not true!
My left headlight bulb is origional and STILL WORKING!
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posted October 04, 2006 05:31 AM
Love it Karl!! I do not know what to sell them for but I have about 10 Manual Tensioners. They look better now that they are not "GREEN"!! They are all Black!
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posted October 04, 2006 09:32 AM
Schnitz has them for the 12 - http://secure.mycart.net/catalogs/catalog.asp?prodid=2704589&showprevnext=1
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posted October 04, 2006 04:33 PM
Ryan, the last time I looked I could not find them under the ZX12R Parts. Are they Cross referenced or do you have to search for Cam Chain tensioner only? Could not find them at Muzzy either!
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