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posted January 06, 2006 01:00 PM
Texas ShootOut
Anybody got the inside scoop for 2006. Are the classes the same or
changed. Heard they might combine 60" with fat boys ( over 230lbs
and 64"), also heard them nitrous riders want a couple extra inches
on the turbo guys.
Any scoop on the dates?
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posted January 07, 2006 03:16 PM
Gary:
for 2006 classes will be:
SET
PET
60" (rollover to SBS/outlaw if not 8 pre-entries)
HH (rollover to SET if not 8 pre-entries)
1000SS
PG
TG
SBS/Outlaw
street 9.50
3-19 - HRP
5-20 - HRP
7-22 - SAR
8-26 - HRP
10-28 - HRP
JC gonna have yr hot rod ready for March???
Karl
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posted January 07, 2006 04:53 PM
Went over to ShootOut site, but no new info. Figured sombody would have the scoop on dates and stuff. Wow, they seem to be running most in your back yard. Would be kind of neat to see them run one up by Dallas. San Antonio might be a little drive for them Lousianna folk, but I kind of like them small tracks close by. How is Buddy doing? George
had a couple rods a knocking and some valves a tapp'n last night in San Antonio. He'll have to get a build also before March, but I got some Busa stuff hanging around. I think He might consider going to a 1507. I also believe Ralf wanted to get his bike freshend up and a low first gear put in as well, before March.
If HH class does not have 8 then they should have rolled it in with 60" and if those two combined still do not have 8 then roll it into Outlaw/SBS. Just my idiot two cents.
Yep, I think it'll be done. I should be getting OD gears and either going 1270 or stroker as well.
I should be able to make it to Houston on the 19th as the Mile is the following weekend. I'll see if George and I can't get JC to come outside and play a little.
How is the bike running? Have ya gotten a little test and tune time?
Can't wait to see you all out there ripping it up!
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posted January 07, 2006 05:09 PM
YEP
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posted January 07, 2006 08:19 PM
buddy is doing fine. Had a piston melt not long ago but got it back together now. Hope to take it out tomorrow to test some problems I had on the last run. Put some bigger nos jets in, adjusted the lock up and the shift linkage. If it is all ok and I don't destroy it before the 19th, I'll be a player at HRP.
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posted January 08, 2006 12:26 AM
Gary,
My motor build went on hold since i started end of year traveling in early Nov; got back from "last" 2005 trip (Monterrey, Mexico) on Dec 30. This shit gotta stop.
Yesterday #2 Son & I finally put the cyl block on, so some progress is being made. No reason it shouldn't be running well before 1st TXO.
Buddy,
Sorry I couldn't make it to yr house over the holidays; just got back from Boston on Fri. Kind of complicated dealing with the aftermath of my ole Dad's quick & painless demise... 
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posted January 09, 2006 07:43 AM
Karl, real sorry to hear about your Dad passing away.
JC, Hope thats a yes to going out to play.
Buddy, Bigger jets! Very very nice can not wait to see ya running in Houston.
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posted January 09, 2006 08:44 PM
If the Heavy Hitters show up with the pre-entries, which I hope they do, we won't have to worry about the rollover. I built my 12 to run heads up and I would hate to have to run ET...it defeats the purpose. I hope enuff of the HHs fill the same way I do.
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posted January 09, 2006 10:02 PM
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Had a piston melt not long ago but got it back together now
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Put some bigger nos jets in
i knew i liked you for a reason!! :kickass 
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posted January 11, 2006 03:53 AM
I hope to make it a few times this year....
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posted January 11, 2006 06:50 AM
YCIS-Looking at my post, it seems a little illogical, but there was method to the madness.
When the piston went, I looked for a reason. What I came up with is: when the shop put the nitrous system on the bike, they put the solonoids in the airbox. The nitrous was fed to the jets in the velocity stacks from the distribution blocks by plastic tubeing. At each rather sharp bend of the tubeing on stacks for pistons 1,2 and 3, there were holes where the nitrous pressure had blown out the sides. The No. 3 tube was directing its nitrous directly towards no. 4 stack, which was the only stack that didn't have a hole in it. I feel no. 4 was getting at least twice twice as much nitrous as it was supposed to while the other pistons were not getting near what they were supposed to. I believe this, in addition to only .002 separation in the nitrous jets and the fuel jets instead of the conservatively reccommended .004 separation caused the problem.
Based on this, I replaced the plastic tubing with brass tubing, increased the nitrous jets by .002 and the separation by .004.
With all this, the bike ran perfect, not even popping between shifts. I lowered my 1/8 mile time from a 5.72 to a 5.58 with a not very impressive 60 ft. time and a slight, momentary back off of the throttle when the front wheel lifted. I'm happy.
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posted January 11, 2006 07:52 AM
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If the Heavy Hitters show up with the pre-entries, which I hope they do, we won't have to worry about the rollover. I built my 12 to run heads up and I would hate to have to run ET...it defeats the purpose. I hope enuff of the HHs fill the same way I do.
just got of the phone with Ralf he is pre entering 4 spots. he figures that there will be 4 enteries so with him 5 and like he says it may cost 75.00 more but at least he will have a class. so that mean 3 bye rund first round
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posted January 11, 2006 08:12 AM
I wasnt picking on you buddy...i really did smile when I read that!!
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posted January 11, 2006 08:46 PM
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Hey JC ..Never thought about it that way, but what ever it takes...
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posted January 12, 2006 02:25 AM
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With all this, the bike ran perfect, not even popping between shifts. I lowered my 1/8 mile time from a 5.72 to a 5.58 with a not very impressive 60 ft. time and a slight, momentary back off of the throttle when the front wheel lifted. I'm happy.
5.58???!!!!!
GO, Buddy, GO! That's moving!!!!!
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posted January 12, 2006 02:54 AM
quote:
just got of the phone with Ralf he is pre entering 4 spots. he figures that there will be 4 enteries so with him 5 and like he says it may cost 75.00 more but at least he will have a class. so that mean 3 bye rund first round
Only Ralf would come up with that strategy!
BYW: JC, i tried calling you last nite but NA. Out dancing with the ole lady???
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posted January 12, 2006 05:22 AM
no I was moving some stuff in storage, I lost my email acct so PM me you #'s
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posted January 12, 2006 05:24 AM
Edited By: johnnycheese on 12 Jan 2006 05:24
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YCIS-Looking at my post, it seems a little illogical, but there was method to the madness.
When the piston went, I looked for a reason. What I came up with is: when the shop put the nitrous system on the bike, they put the solonoids in the airbox. The nitrous was fed to the jets in the velocity stacks from the distribution blocks by plastic tubeing. At each rather sharp bend of the tubeing on stacks for pistons 1,2 and 3, there were holes where the nitrous pressure had blown out the sides. The No. 3 tube was directing its nitrous directly towards no. 4 stack, which was the only stack that didn't have a hole in it. I feel no. 4 was getting at least twice twice as much nitrous as it was supposed to while the other pistons were not getting near what they were supposed to. I believe this, in addition to only .002 separation in the nitrous jets and the fuel jets instead of the conservatively reccommended .004 separation caused the problem.
Based on this, I replaced the plastic tubing with brass tubing, increased the nitrous jets by .002 and the separation by .004.
With all this, the bike ran perfect, not even popping between shifts. I lowered my 1/8 mile time from a 5.72 to a 5.58 with a not very impressive 60 ft. time and a slight, momentary back off of the throttle when the front wheel lifted. I'm happy.
DAMMMMMMMMMMM!
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posted January 12, 2006 06:58 AM
5.58 1/8 can not wait to see ya run at HRP
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posted January 13, 2006 06:46 PM
what would a zx12 turbo ,67 inch wheelbase with 150 pound rider run
p.s. the bike has 254hp for now
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posted January 13, 2006 08:21 PM
Hey JC...Have you used web cams in any of your zx12 builds....and if so did they do well???
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posted January 15, 2006 05:53 AM
Muzzy or lee's only so far
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posted January 15, 2006 06:11 AM
I was running a set of Lee's cams (sourced from Web). They got wear spots on the lobe's so i went to Muzzy's. Subsequently some expert or other told me those "wear spots" are no big deal, run em.
When (not if) I fuk up the Muzzy cams, i intend to put the Lee's back in.
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posted January 16, 2006 07:38 AM
Did ya notice a difference between the Lee's/Web and the Muzzy cams?
I might be wrong, but I think Web has a couple intake and exhaust cams with different duration and lift. Did you have the hotter ones?
I am an idiot, but I realy like that lift on dem Muzzy cams, just not the price!
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posted January 16, 2006 11:50 PM
nope, no difference was obvious, although different days on the dyno, slightly different set up, etc
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