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posted July 23, 2004 12:22 AM
 Edited By: entropy on 23 Jul 2004 01:53
this works for me (10" arm, 210-220hp on motor)
stage - chest ON the tank
about 10' out - WOT, clutch fully engaged
Look how impressed the track guys are with my style!!!!
about 30'out - WOT, clutch fully engaged
it was coming up on me more than i'd like, so i lowered it a bit more; we'll see what happens tomorrow at the Texas Shootout.
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RAC4IT
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posted July 23, 2004 07:07 AM
Edited By: RAC4IT on 23 Jul 2004 08:08
60 ft's using stock wheelbase shoot for a goal of 1.63
Come to MIR for one of Jason Miller's streetbike seminar schools, I will show up and beat up on you with some one-on-one until you go 9.70s.
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zrxdean
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posted July 23, 2004 07:36 AM
Nice pics Karl. Such a nice bike.
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entropy
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posted July 23, 2004 10:51 AM
Edited By: entropy on 23 Jul 2004 11:53
thx, Dean.
Q: any idea where i can get zx12 clutch springs which are midway between Muzzy and stock???
On my MTC 2 stage I am running 3 stockers and 3 Muzzy, because 6 stockers (or they might be MTC's???) were too soft even when shimmed.
I now have a clutch spring tester and wanna go step-wise softer from where I am now (3+3) until my rpm stays up and 60' stays down.
thoughts??
(Aliveagain: i hope this sidebar on clutch springs doesn't constitute thread-jacking. Its all about launching, eh??)
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posted July 23, 2004 11:14 AM
Not sure. I would think Tony Lang would be able to point you in the right direction, or maybe Jay Regan at MRE.
sidebar #2; just got my crank back from Falicon, looks schweet. Hopefully boosting by next weekend.
Aliveagain: any chance of checking Muzzy's stock before waiting any longer on Mike?
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entropy
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posted July 23, 2004 01:05 PM
dean, you've been quiet lately??? crank problems??? what joo got cooking???
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posted July 23, 2004 06:08 PM
teach away o' masters!How does the spring from a ZX6 rate with Muzzy's and stock?
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posted July 23, 2004 09:44 PM
I had those numbers once. 
I either posted them, or gave them to OldKawboy.......
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posted July 24, 2004 03:56 AM
Entropy...What you need is the OEM 92144-1881 clutch springs from the 2002 ZX12...The spring is a touch thicker than the OEM 2000 ZX12 springs...I use the 1881 springs and have great results with minimal wheelies!!!
Aliveagain...The ZX6 springs are good, but cause wheelies when you launch hard!!!...The OEM springs that I mentioned above are perfect!!!
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posted July 24, 2004 06:49 AM
CR,
you ARE da MAN!!!
now to click on Ron Ayers!
BTW: the best I ever got when set up like you are was 9.63 @ 146.5 Maybe I should paint my heap blue???
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posted July 24, 2004 08:09 AM
From my understanding...the ZX springs are no stiffer...they are just LONGER than the OEMs...and thusly creating more pressure on the plate.
The Schnitz/muzzy springs are actually stiffer than the stockers or 6R springs....how much stiffer...dunno...never measured.
Ive been running the 6R springs since I got the bike...it would never handle the spray for very long..and I was changing steels like underwear.
Had planned on switchin to some schnitz springs...but never got around to it.
Anyway...moving to an MTC lockup instead of fiddlin with THOSE kinda springs anymore.
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posted July 24, 2004 08:40 AM
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and I was changing steels like underwear.
Every coupla weeks ? :P
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posted July 24, 2004 09:06 AM
"60 ft's using stock wheelbase shoot for a goal of 1.63"
I assume that is lowered?
I have done 1.74 so far at stock height except for a strap. Got a dogbone on order. I am hoping that is enough for 1.6's. Thanks for the info. 
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posted July 24, 2004 09:16 AM
That's a great thing about lockups, once you get it set up you shouldn't burn through plates. I change steels every now and then, adding up to a full set about once a year.
Nothing new Karl, just recovering from a burned rod bearing, which turned into an overhaul and freshening. Cryo'd the crank, rods & pistons, maybe that will help longevity. Balanced to within a few tenths of a gram too.
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RAC4IT
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posted July 24, 2004 09:53 AM
who did you use for cryo
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posted July 25, 2004 08:20 AM
Falicon, but they farm it out to someone close by. $150 for crank, rods, pistons, wrist pins.
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