aliveagain
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posted July 20, 2004 03:19 PM
launching
I wish I knew how to post pictures but there is a shot of me launching on Dragway.com under the news section(Jul17 019.jpg)Do I need to lay over the tank more?
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BA
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posted July 20, 2004 06:24 PM
how big's your gut?? 
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wannabe
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posted July 20, 2004 07:00 PM
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posted July 20, 2004 07:05 PM
1. *right click* on the picture
2. Click on "properties"
3. Highlight the test after 'Location'
4. *Cntrl-C* (copy)
5. In the quick reply section, *Cnrtl-V* (paste)
This should come up:
http://www.dragway.com/SatSlideShow/images/Jul17%20019.jpg
6. put {img} before the above, then {/img} afterward. But, instead of {}, use []. The first {img} tells the software that an image is coming. The {/img} tells the software that this is the end of the image string.
Now give it a try.
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wannabe
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posted July 20, 2004 07:09 PM
As for your launch, yes, you should be on the tank more, but it's hard to tell whether or not you actually are by the launch picture. I normally start off with my chest on the tank. But, before I moved my pegs, my lack of flexibility made it mandatory for me to pull my upper body up so that I could get my legs on the pegs.
This is one case where a video camera will tell you much more.
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posted July 20, 2004 07:58 PM
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posted July 20, 2004 08:00 PM
how can i make my pic. bigger
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posted July 20, 2004 09:52 PM
 Edited By: zrxdean on 20 Jul 2004 23:46
Do what's most comfortable for you AA, if the front comes up, you'll naturally shift your weight to prevent it in the future. I tend to get out as far as I can on the tank.
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posted July 20, 2004 10:33 PM
As long as you dont go into a giant wheelie... your body position looks ok.
You can position one leg behind you as a ballast of sorts. Usually the right leg works best, so you can get the left leg up to shift.
A scooped or stepped seat will help you keep your body position consistant
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RAC4IT
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posted July 21, 2004 03:21 AM
looks okay? uuuuhhhh NO. That looks like you're riding on a Sunday cruise. You need to get WAY WAY WAY more aggressive in body position. In the photo above the rider is almost sitting straight up!
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aliveagain
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posted July 21, 2004 06:22 AM
thanx for input,going again tonight for more practice.Only had one bellypan flashing,the rest of the time it would just squat and go.I'm going to try launching at 7000-7500 tonight because those people watching me said I'm still not launching hard enough to lift the front end yet.This is the kind of school I like!
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posted July 21, 2004 02:28 PM
more RPM isn't the solution, it's letting the clutch out QUICKER and getting more aggressive on the throttle at the same time. 7500 is way too high
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posted July 21, 2004 02:43 PM
I agree with Bergie, if you can't get the bike to wheelie launching at 5000 rpm, then you are definitely letting the clutch out too slow.
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posted July 21, 2004 04:05 PM
You will only get better with more seat time, so bring it to the track !
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aliveagain
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posted July 22, 2004 03:40 AM
Something is wrong then because I brought it up to 8000 and dumped the clutch.No wheel spin,only a little hop with the front end and the clutch is good,35lbs.in the back tire and I still only ran a 10.39-1.81/60
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RAC4IT
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posted July 22, 2004 09:32 AM
I can tell you what's wrong;
you're not TWISTING THE THROTTLE AT THE SAME TIME
you can rev it to 10,000 rpm and dump it but unless you TWIST the throttle it will just bog over to zero.
Don't worry about numbers, LISTEN to the engine.
NO DROP in the tone, you want it to increase! TWIST IT WOT
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posted July 22, 2004 01:26 PM
Edited By: BA on 22 Jul 2004 14:28
have to agree with Berg's assessment there.
I like to call it the "feed and twist". ( naming convention ala the ol' "snap and slide")
It sounds like your actual throttle opening is probably very minimal, you then pop the clutch out and that 5000-7000rpm becomes Jack!
You don't want to dump the clutch anyway, you probably know that. You feed it out aggressively while rolling into the throttle hard. Together, they should obviously cause your front wheel to just skip off the ground a couple of inches.
By watching various personal videos, I guess-timate that I do this all the way out to the 100' area and it would span about 3 seconds worth.
Bergie has a video on his website of an 8.99 run I think, some green 12R, and I also have a Vid on my red 12R running a 9.34, and on both vid's the sound is real good for hearing that rpm and clutch sliding out.
I could send it to ya if you if it would help? Or, it might still be at zx-12r.org.
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aliveagain
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posted July 22, 2004 03:31 PM
RAC4IT and BA,I think your right.My brother says he can hear the motor bog a little and then take off.I think I'm fighting that psych thing as to whether or not its going to jump up and by the time I realize and react,I've lost out.But damn,I'm going to keep trying.I just brought it in to ECP to have a CO2 shifter,shift light and tether put on.He's going to put it on the dyno to see what kind of reading I'm getting with the Ti-Force(the bike was mapped with an Akro)Still waiting since May for SBM 1320.Was all set to cancel order when I found out Muzzy's was another 8-12 weeks.Sounds like I need to take 2 steps backwards befor I get more H.P.that masks my technique.
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posted July 22, 2004 04:19 PM
quote:
Bergie has a video on his website of an 8.99 run I think, some green 12R,
LOL "some green 12R" ;-)
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RAC4IT
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posted July 22, 2004 04:22 PM
That's Ryan Schnitz on my 12R as if you didn't know LOL 
http://www.dontbescaredracing.com/video/091302_ryan_899_161.wmv
there's a whole mess of samples at the bottom of this link
http://www.dontbescaredracing.com/video/
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posted July 22, 2004 04:24 PM
Edited By: RAC4IT on 22 Jul 2004 17:25
Granted this example is on a 10R but the video is probably the best teaching tool I've ever posted, check out this one and LISTEN as you watch, remember it next time you goto the track:
Watch the throttle hand!
http://www.dontbescaredracing.com/video/zx10r_nj.wmv
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aliveagain
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posted July 22, 2004 04:30 PM
LOL,easier watched than done.I'll try thanx
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posted July 22, 2004 06:41 PM
I still love watching those videos!!!...Talk about getting hyped up...Cant wait for Jason Millers seminar on July 30...
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posted July 22, 2004 07:14 PM
My friend launches like you might be Aliveagain. He's on a 9R, and I'm slowly breaking him of the habit, but he keeps flip-flopping between:
A. 6000rpm at the line.....lights count down...... Green.... Then the revs are only high for about 10 feet after that. Got it on film and showed it to him.
B. To fix this, hehehe, sometimes he sits there at 6000rpm, launches and keeps it at 6000-8000 rpm for like the full 60-80 feet out of the hole, and then ends up with a 1.9x 60' time. hahahaahaaa
One day, he'll find a happy, aggressive medium between those styles and the 60's will drop like crazy.
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fastxx78
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posted July 22, 2004 08:24 PM
Hey guys, wondering how i am doing. Stock wheelbase, no lowering link, just a strap, what should i be shooting for for 60'?
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